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Terri Can Eat With A Spoon
World ^ | Bob Jones

Posted on 10/17/2003 2:03:11 PM PDT by mr_griz

AFTER ALL THE YEARS, ALL THE fighting, all the bitter recriminations, there were remarkably few tears on Oct. 15 when Terri Schiavo finally had her feeding tube removed. Maybe the crowd of 80 or so gathered outside the hospice facility in western Florida were too angry to cry, or too numb.

For her part, Carla Sauer was just too tired. "I've been pulling for Terri since 1995," she said as she sank uncertainly onto a three-legged stool to rest the sandal-clad feet she'd been standing on for five hours. "I still can't believe it's come to this."

"This," apparently, is the end of the line in the long fight to keep Ms. Schiavo alive. A Florida judge on Oct. 14 refused two final appeals from her parents, clearing the way for the removal of the feeding tube that's kept her alive for a half-dozen years. Without the tube, the 39-year-old will slowly starve to death. It should take about 14 days.

That's precisely the outcome her husband, Michael, has been pushing for. Claiming that Terri has been a vegetable since she collapsed after a heart attack in 1990, Mr. Schiavo says he is simply honoring a request made by his young bride: That he not allow doctors to prolong her life through artificial means.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, doubt she ever made such a request. But even if she did, they argue that a feeding tube is not the same as artificial life support. Her vital organs function on their own, she smiles and laughs at the sound of her loved ones' voices, and she has no terminal illness that threatens her life. If she simply has someone who cares enough to feed her, she could live for another 50 years—a condition not terribly different from that of thousands of other severely disabled persons.

"She's not a vegetable," Ms. Sauer insisted as she rested her tired feet. "She knows voices, she responds. She can follow commands, and she tries to communicate by blinking her eyelids 'yes' and 'no.'" And then there's the most important detail of all: "We used to feed her with a spoon, and she swallowed on her own."

That was seven years ago, when Ms. Sauer was a nurse at a rehab facility in Largo, Fla. At that time, Ms. Schiavo was getting physical therapy and full-time attention from skilled nurses. But the facility charged $4,000 a month, as Ms. Sauer recalls, and Mr. Schiavo soon chose to discontinue his wife's therapy and move her into the much cheaper hospice system. She's languished there for six years, tethered to a feeding tube while a fierce legal battle swirled around her.

The Schindlers argued that they should be named as Terri's guardians, in part because Mr. Schiavo now has a new girlfriend and a young child. Just because he's ready to move on with his life, they said, he should not be allowed to end Terri's. When a series of judges sided with Mr. Schiavo, the Schindlers appealed to the court of public opinion: They smuggled a video camera into their daughter's room—against a judge's orders—to show the world she could still laugh and smile and respond to affection.

With Terri now dying slowly, that video may be the Schindlers' final memory of their daughter. Rather than watching by her bedside, they are parked in a camper across the street. Bob Schindler has been charged with contempt of court, and he and his wife cannot visit their daughter without Mr. Schiavo's permission—or his lawyer.

The family tragedy, as painful as it is to watch, is only a part of a larger picture. Advocates for the disabled fear that Terri Schiavo's death could set a chilling precedent. "This is deplorable," Joni Eareckson Tada told WORLD in the midst of a whirlwind of press conferences and rallies. "What's happening here is just a part of a larger effort to class persons with severe cognitive disabilities as non-persons. Terri is not brain dead, she's not in a coma, she's not terminally ill. We have people who attend our weekend retreats who are more severely disabled. Yet the courts have washed their hands of this. Medical personnel are forbidden to deliver any food or water. She's being denied her right to humane treatment under state law.

"This case is a watershed for people with disabilities," Mrs. Tada said. "Removal of the feeding tube means you are promoting active euthanasia. As a quadriplegic woman, that's a frightening precedent."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caneat; notincoma; schiavo; schindler; terrischiavo; terrischindler; thanksrobertdrobot
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To: Spyder
I may be mistaken, but I'm recalling that when Michael petitioned Greer to fire the state appointed guardian, in late 1993, one of the issues brought up by the state guardian was the failure of Michael to pay for therapy and it had been stopped. This was one of the falling out factors soon after the state guardian was removed, with the Schindlers and Michael since they had signed on to having Michael appointed the guardian!
241 posted on 10/17/2003 8:48:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Spyder
We could be wrong. Maybe the article was inaccurate. But if it's correct, then she probably wasn't making the progress her family had hoped for during that time.
242 posted on 10/17/2003 8:49:50 PM PDT by huck von finn
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To: MHGinTN
You have been as well, MHG. Whether or not people find it believable or noteworthy, it's worth taking a look.

And I must confess, there's something about this situation, above and beyond the Michael Shiavo hustler theory and this total human disaster, that doesn't sit very well with me. I don't know what it is yet. There's a whole lot of conflicting information, as Spyder pointed out.

243 posted on 10/17/2003 8:55:22 PM PDT by huck von finn
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To: huck von finn
As to keeping Terri's brain scans restricted, I assume some legal reason, I just want it spelled out.

For all I know, no brain scans will surface. Judge Greer might seal the record.

244 posted on 10/17/2003 8:58:44 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: huck von finn
I think I know what it is that still bothers you. You believe in your heart in the sanctity of life above the quality of life, because as long as there is life, there are possibilities, human and divine.
245 posted on 10/17/2003 9:03:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: secretagent
As to keeping Terri's brain scans restricted, I assume some legal reason, I just want it spelled out.

The reason is becuase her "guardian" Michael Schiavo wants it that way. He has alot to hide.

246 posted on 10/17/2003 9:06:13 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: SwordofTruth
I haven't formed a firm opinion of Mr. Schiavo's character, just have a bias against him at this point.

More importantly, I don't see a compelling reason to deny the Schindlers the opportunity to care for Terri.

Another point: I wonder about Florida's adultery laws, and if Mr. Sciavo has violated them, and if that violation would nullify his guardian status. Surely the Schindlers have looked into this - I wonder what they found.

247 posted on 10/17/2003 9:07:12 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent
Michael Schiavo has also wants Terri to be cremented after she dies. He wants no autopsy performed. This man has much to hide.
248 posted on 10/17/2003 9:08:23 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: SwordofTruth
Re the restricted brain scans:

The reason is becuase her "guardian" Michael Schiavo wants it that way. He has alot to hide.

Very possible.

249 posted on 10/17/2003 9:09:41 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: MHGinTN
Yes, and it has an double indemnity clause for paying double if death is by accident. However, since Michael Schiavo is in an adulterous relationship fathering children with another woman, it is questionable that the ghoul will receive a cent upon Terri's death!

Is that true? I've never heard of an "adultery" clause in a life insurance policy. However, if MS were to divorce Terri as her parent's have requested, then he may not be entitled to the life insurance benefits. In any case, the possibility of another large infusion of ca$h via insurance benefits is certainly a compelling reason to say that MS does not have Terri's best interests in mind.

250 posted on 10/17/2003 9:12:52 PM PDT by lonevoice
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To: lonevoice
Bigamy may preclude his ability to collect on killing Terri. Insurance companies are tough to get money out of if they believe the law is on their side!
251 posted on 10/17/2003 9:15:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: secretagent
More importantly, I don't see a compelling reason to deny the Schindlers the opportunity to care for Terri.

At least 12 dozen prominent doctors have said that Terri Schiavo is NOT in a persistent vegetative state and could recover greatly with regular therapy. Also one nurse has stated she has heard Terri speak "help me" and "momma" on numerous occasions.

Michael Schiavo knows that if Terri gets the proper medical care she may be able to tell the world that he is the one who put her in that state. Also, he has a life insurance policy on her that he wants to collect on.

252 posted on 10/17/2003 9:16:27 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: MHGinTN
Bigamy may preclude his ability to collect on killing Terri. Insurance companies are tough to get money out of if they believe the law is on their side!

Unfortunately common law marriages that were not entered into before 1968 are illegal in the state of Florida.

253 posted on 10/17/2003 9:23:26 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: SwordofTruth
So, besides breaking the law of fealty, he is breaking a bigamy statute?
254 posted on 10/17/2003 9:35:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: SwordofTruth
After reading this story you have posted I am more enraged then ever at this POS. If this animal succeeds in killing Terri, he's a walking dead man.



I sure hope so.
255 posted on 10/17/2003 9:37:23 PM PDT by PeyersPatches
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To: MHGinTN
So, besides breaking the law of fealty, he is breaking a bigamy statute?

No, common law marriages are not recognized in Florida if they were not established BEFORE 1968. He can't be charged with bigamy. If he lived in Georgia with this girl then after 7 years they would have had a common law marriage. He has been with her for seven years so in at least one state, and I think at least 13 others, they would be considered married, but not in Florida.

257 posted on 10/17/2003 9:43:02 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: MHGinTN
Okay, then, we'd have to totally discount the article that started this thread, then because it said "7 years ago."
258 posted on 10/17/2003 9:48:03 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: MHGinTN
Thank you so much for sharing the links with us, huck

Trust whom you choose but don't ping me to anything to do with the Soros-teat-sucker-ghouls in the future.

Evil pollutes and I want to choose the times I enter a conversation with it.

This man helped his own mother to die and likes Strela. That's enough of a red flag for me.

259 posted on 10/17/2003 10:10:55 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: mr_griz
""What's happening here is just a part of a larger effort to class persons with severe cognitive disabilities as non-persons."

This is the single most important statement in this piece and one that all Americans should read and re-read. If you know a disabled person, someday you will look back on this day and remember it.

They have redefined life and now are redefining death.

260 posted on 10/17/2003 10:15:47 PM PDT by MarMema
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