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To: pgyanke
My own fallible understanding of Him would lead me to answer your question by asking "what is the purpose of faith?" If God can be reduced to a mathmatically formula, then what jewel is found in fellowship? If there is no faith, then there is no real acceptance.

That simply defers the question. Why would a divine being, having created the facility for rational thought, want or value faith? 'Faith' as the rational expectation that someone who has been true in the past will continue to be true is fine and virtuous; 'faith' as the acceptance of an assertion, on the mere say so of someone else, is not virtuous.

You don't believe because God doesn't conform to man's understanding of science... just who is God here anyway?

I don't believe or disbelieve in a divine being. There is no data on the question that I consider of any value; since the question in my opinion is of no urgency, I simply defer any speculation until I see some evidence.

58 posted on 10/16/2003 9:16:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
...'faith' as the acceptance of an assertion, on the mere say so of someone else, is not virtuous.

God disagrees with you. "Blessed are they who have not seen and believe." - Jesus to His Apostles after His resurrection.

What more can I say? God values faith and belief. He didn't give us impirical formulas, he gave us faith, hope and love. If you truly seek Him you will find Him. He, Himself, has promised as much.

62 posted on 10/16/2003 9:25:21 AM PDT by pgyanke (I know this isn't proof if you don't believe... but it is relevant to the conversation...)
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To: Right Wing Professor; pgyanke
He's not an atheist, he's an agnostic.

I don't not believe in god, I just want to see physical proof.

Word History: An agnostic does not deny the existence of God and heaven but holds that one cannot know for certain whether or not they exist. The term agnostic was fittingly coined by the 19th-century British scientist Thomas H. Huxley, who believed that only material phenomena were objects of exact knowledge. He made up the word from the prefix a-, meaning “without, not,” as in amoral, and the noun Gnostic. Gnostic is related to the Greek word gnosis, “knowledge,” which was used by early Christian writers to mean “higher, esoteric knowledge of spiritual things” hence, Gnostic referred to those with such knowledge. In coining the term agnostic, Huxley was considering as “Gnostics” a group of his fellow intellectuals“ists,” as he called them who had eagerly embraced various doctrines or theories that explained the world to their satisfaction. Because he was a “man without a rag of a label to cover himself with,” Huxley coined the term agnostic for himself, its first published use being in 1870."

201 posted on 10/16/2003 1:42:07 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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