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Toronto the Intolerant (A Democrat fumes over Canadian anti-Americanism)
The Toronto Star ^ | October 15, 2003 | Jacqueline Swartz

Posted on 10/15/2003 8:18:04 AM PDT by quidnunc

Anti-Americanism is a fact of life in our city and it's getting hard to be a U.S. Democrat here, says

Anti-Americanism is a fact of daily life for Americans living in Toronto. The slurs aren't always directed at U.S. foreign policy, but at Americans in general, as in, "That's so American." Like most prejudice, this one is coded: "American" has come to mean pushy, self-promoting, and arrogant. Oh yes, and fat.

It's getting worse. Every encounter, every banal elevator conversation, every talk show, carries the risk of a barb, a stereotype.

Americans, I heard at a party just last week are "individualistic" (translation: greedy, out for yourself) and imperialistic — they want to conquer the world. Isn't it amazing that we're not supposed to mind?

At meetings of Democrats Abroad, a group affiliated with the U.S. Democratic party, which tries to help register U.S. Democrats to vote absentee, I have seen people fuming at this basso continuo of insult and prejudice.

"I get it day in and day out — and it's so ignorant," says Denise, a Toronto teacher. Anti-Americanism, she continues, is encouraged here. "It shows you're a loyal Canadian, that you're smart." Sadly, she says, it often infects her friendships with Canadians. "You might feel you have a lot in common with someone, and then they say something insulting. Without apology."

Peter, a writer, imagined Canada as a tolerant, compassionate society. Then he started living here.

"If the same kind of expressions were directed at people from other parts of the world, it would be considered racism," he says. Canadians, he points out, complain that their country scarcely registers on the U.S. radar screen. "But there's a lack of appreciation in Canada for the diversity and complexity in America. Stereotyping denies people a basic human right, which is to be considered a person, not a cartoon."

Fat? Has anyone been to Manhattan — or San Francisco or Los Angeles or umpteen other U.S. cities?

Of course, at Democrats Abroad get-togethers, the venting is mostly about other things: the Bush administration, its frightening first-strike foreign policy, its "deja voodoo" economics. Yet these gripes carry anguish, betrayal, indignation; Canadians are content to gloat.

Where does this infantile anti-Americanism come from? Is it a by-product of the Canadian inferiority complex — English Canadian, that is, for none of this is a problem in French Canada, among francophones or anglophones.

Is the put down of Americans, the main route to Canadian identity? It's hard to understand this toxic brew of shaky sanctimony spiked with envy and resentment. Some Americans have given up trying — they're planning to go back to the U.S.A.

Others, whose families and careers have taken root here, have come to feel more American after years of not thinking much about it. This has a lot to do with the defining event of our young century: the attacks on the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001. If anyone doubted that Americans were different from Canadians, that day seared the message into our collective skin. Americans were attacked — because they were Americans.

In the sombre aftermath of those events, we sought other Americans, for only they could understand. That feeling remains, no matter how sickeningly President George Bush has exploited the events of 9/11.

Bush, the man Democrats call the Resident of the White House, used Sept. 11 to push his indefensible attack on Iraq. And, guess what, we were against it.

But that didn't make us any more acceptable to Canadians.

What about all those Canadians who spoke out against the frenzy of hate towards the U.S. during the buildup to the attack on Iraq?

Let's be clear — the attitude of those people reflected support for the war against Iraq. Cheered on by the likes of Ralph Klein and Ernie Eves, they were part of a small but vociferous pro-war pep rally. They were no allies of mine, or of the Democrats I knew.

But I felt equally out of place at the anti-war rallies in Toronto.

There was that knee-jerk anti-Americanism, the kind that closes its eyes to the existence of passionate, articulate critics of the war who live south of the border, of dissenting magazines, newspaper columnists, public radio and TV outlets that are small compared to Fox but that reach millions, along with lively Internet sites like Truthout.org .

Even the current slate of contenders for the Democratic candidate for president has a front runner, Howard Dean, who owes his success to his attacks on current U.S. policies.

But acknowledging such snowballing dissent in the U.S. makes many Canadian critics uncomfortable. It deprives them of the gratification of simple-minded, feel-good superiority.

With the U.S. as the multi-use scapegoat, they don't have to face their own problems, from pollution to ports, from too little affordable housing to too few people owning the media.

As an American, I can, and do, criticize U.S. policies and leaders. But I cannot de-Americanize myself.

Yet coming from America condemns you no matter what your political views are. Sure, if you say you never want to see the U.S. again, you express that kind of fatuous gratitude about living in Canada, you'll be welcomed here with exuberant, U.S.-bashing arms.

But to renounce your birth country is to lose your original sense of place; where you grew up, how it looked and smelled, the holidays. All that is part of you. It is your roots.

Every other immigrant in Canada has a right to his or her roots. Why not Americans?

Jacqueline Swartz is vice-chair of Democrats Abroad Canada.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; draftdodgers
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To: XRdsRev
"Canada is barely on anybody's radar screen. Despite the bravery, hard work and intellect of it's citizens, Canada just has never really stood for anything. Even in WW1 & 2, Canada's participation was seen more as a duty to England, rather than a desire to further freedom"

Tell that to my Uncles and ancestors pushing up daisies over in Europe. Also, as your biggest trading partner, we must stand for something. Finally it was kind of nice not being a blip on your radar screen and judging by your comments, we still don't register.
41 posted on 10/15/2003 9:54:44 AM PDT by albertabound (It's good to beeeeeee Alberta bound.)
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To: Tacis
Candadians are WHINGERS

No they're not. Some play goal , some defence .Only 3 whingers on a team, Ya know.:)

And I thought the writer of this foolishness was an American. Why is she whining so much?

42 posted on 10/15/2003 10:07:47 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: albertabound
I think you totally missed my point.

First off, I am not trying to cast any doubts on the honor, sacrifices or motivation of your ancestors who died in Europe during the 2 World Wars, however, historically it is widely recognized that Canada's participation was a direct reflection of it's close ties to Great Britain as opposed to it being an unbiased 3rd party who got into the fight because of ideological reasons. While individual Canadians were often motivated by high principles of promoting freedom, the Canadian government was largely supporting it's ally Great Britain.

Secondly, being a trading partner of the United States doesn't stand for anything. You trade with us and we trade with you because it is in our mutual self interests. If Canada would benefit from increased trading with Iceland at the expense of the US, you would do so and you would be justified.

225+ years ago, Canada had a choice to make, you could throw off the yoke of British colonial rule like the US was trying to do, or you could stay the course. Canadians chose the latter and remained just a satellite of the British empire.

For a good part of the 19th century, your future was decided as much in London as it was in York. You relied on British Armies for your defense. British business interests controlled trade in your country almost into this century. Quebec is even worse, since they haven't gotten over the fact that the British threw the French out in the 1740s and they still long for French masters over English ones.

Unfortunately for Canada, many have seen you for a long time as just extensions of British and French influence in North America. Canadians have had a terrible burden of overcoming this and standing out on the world stage as an independant nation devoid of foreign influences.

There is a reason so many immigrants came to the US instead of Canada in the last 200 years. The US was recognized as a place where the individual could fail or prosper devoid of any other interference. Canada on the other hand always had a shadowy hand of Colonialism hanging over it. It was a place where Royal title and priveledge still carried weight 100 years after we got rid of that crap. For people trying to escape the monarchies of Europe, Canada didn't offer a complete break, the United States did. For too long, Canada was just Great Britan west. Geez, you even put the Queen on your stamps and coins for crying out loud....nothing against the Queen but could you suck up to Great Britan any harder ? You didn't even mint all your own money until 1908, you had it minted in England.

Even today, you seem unable to decide if you are English or French.........here's a concept, why don't you all become Canadians first.
43 posted on 10/15/2003 10:51:15 AM PDT by XRdsRev
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To: Tacis
French  Canadians... are nowhere near as bad (or as anti-American) as the lefties in Ontario.

Zattafact?  You might tell that to the frogs who attacked the bus of American soccer kids and attacked the kids themselves at the game in Quebec.
44 posted on 10/15/2003 11:25:24 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: quidnunc
>>>>>>Others, whose families and careers have taken root here,....

There is 'Merican name for An American in Canada: DRAFTDODGER

45 posted on 10/15/2003 11:55:12 AM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA
I spent most of the 1970s as a landed immigrant from the US operating the Canadian subsidiary of an American company. This followed a four year tour of duty in the US Navy. Stick your draft dodging up with the rest of your insights.
46 posted on 10/15/2003 12:03:24 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: XRdsRev
...why don't you all become Canadians first.

It's exactly the misguided devotion of the Liberal Party to that goal since the Pearson/Trudeau Revolution that has screwed our country!

Canada was doing fine before these traitors assumed power, without an official national flag or anthem, and with less socialism than the States.

Now, I advise my own children to emigrate.

47 posted on 10/15/2003 12:35:20 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: quidnunc
Maybe they got tired of being called the retarded giant of the north. (he said, without apology)

Seriously, I've worse insults traded over baseball teams than the ones bitched about in the article.
48 posted on 10/15/2003 12:40:10 PM PDT by js1138
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To: albertabound
Please do not fall into the trap of assuming Toronto liberal elitists represent Canadians in general. The majority of us love and respect Uncle Sam.

That has always been my general impression as well as I visit British Columbia often. The Canadians I know reserve their hatred for Ottawa and the French.

49 posted on 10/15/2003 12:42:44 PM PDT by usurper
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To: quidnunc
The truth is that people who hate America,will do so whether there is a democrat or republican in office.It is an inferiority complex.

Most people around the world would have no clue that Clinton and Bush were from different political parties.

50 posted on 10/15/2003 12:46:27 PM PDT by armed_in_sydney
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To: quidnunc
Better to face reality and see things as they really are.

March 2003....Toronto....during one of the worse storms of the winter....


51 posted on 10/15/2003 1:17:55 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa
Thanks for the great pics!

52 posted on 10/15/2003 1:36:57 PM PDT by what's up
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To: quidnunc
Unfortunately, part of the anti-American sentiment is rooted in our English heritage - Canadians, being part of the commonwealth feel they identify more with that, unfortunately, it can make some of us behave like the Brits with regards to our attitudes towards Americans. Believe me, you want to hear comments like, "That's so American", go to England.
53 posted on 10/15/2003 1:40:29 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: IvanT
Actually, just to add, if I may, Liberals in Canada and the US are Anti-American, America only has friends up here in Canada amongst our conservative minded populace.
54 posted on 10/15/2003 1:46:55 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: Grobe
Toronto is a vile and disgusting city. It has devolved from a vibrant and clean city to a repository of third world scum and is now a magnet for criminals, immigration shoppers and fraud artists worldwide. With the highest foreign born population of any city in North America, the whole multi-cult thing will blow up in their faces real soon. I would advise American tourists to avoid Toronto at all costs, there is nothing to see. Go to Chicago, it is a far better tourist destination

Being born and bread a Torontonian, I have witnessed in the last 30 years the devolution of my city, and it's happened in direct proportion to the floodgates of immigration being opened. What used to be a clean city has garbage strewn allover it by immigrants who don't value civic cleanliness (just look at our chinatown, it's a disgrace). The rest of the city is turning into crime infested crapholes. The only areas that are still good are the areas where our traditional immigrant base have strongholds (British and european backgrounds). In those areas, new immigrants are simply priced out of the market for the homes there, they simply cannot afford it, so they shack up downtown, and help contribute to the decay.

55 posted on 10/15/2003 1:54:13 PM PDT by IvanT
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To: quidnunc
I listened to something on NPR last night (I know, it was a mistake) about Germany and their feelings about the US. Its much worse over there, some are even longing for the old ways of the old East Germany.
56 posted on 10/15/2003 2:10:45 PM PDT by machman
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