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Las Vegas Oddsmaker Says Donald Trump Will Win
YouTube ^ | 10-21-16 | Bill Still

Posted on 10/22/2016 8:33:26 AM PDT by bigbob

2:41 video

Good morning, I’m still reporting on Las Vegas Oddsmaker Says Donald Trump Will Win A lot of you have asked why I’ve not covered the polls for several days. Well, the MSM polls have all fallen into line. Even the UPI State Poll is either right and Clinton is the sure victor, or they too have fallen in the grip of the Clintonistas. I’ll try to do a poll report very early tomorrow morning. But if it’s not up 7 am Pacific, then it won’t come out until noon PST. However, a California reporter friend of mine just sent me this. It’s anonymous and unverifiable - and perhaps it’s just wishful think ing, but my sense is this may be true. It is written very poorly – without the usual scientific detail that all my polling reports usually contain. Is this an obvious flaw, warning us to dismiss it out of hand, or an overtaxed person dashing off a note to a friend – who then asks for a few more details so he or she can put it out for public consumption? I don’t know. So, just throw this in your hopper for consideration. Just weigh it properly. This broke 2 hours ago. From a Vegas Oddsmaker: “I am a non partisan actuarial mathematic and scientifically based odds maker, for large Vegas casinos. I am paid to be correct, and if I am wrong, I do not get paid, or will be fired, or worse, seriously. “Following the third debate, I have Trump up over Clinton 12 To 14 points, except in Massachusetts, and California, where Clinton has an 8 point lead. “The latest narrative from the media is that Hillary has an insurmountable lead in New York. Thus is also lie. “The narrative of media hype of somewhere between a landslide and a narrow win for Clinton, in fraud polling - please quote me - is a BIG LIE. “Trump will be the next President of the United States. “I have not been wrong in picking the winner of all US Presidential races since 1964, and I will not be wrong now. By the way, it really helps us if you be sure to like, comment and forward this video to friends. I’m still reporting from Washington. Good day.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: billstill; crappolls; lawvegasodds; trumpslide
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Bill Still has been a steady voice for objective reporting, and even with caveats this informal comment from a Las Vegas oddsmaker is worth a listen.
1 posted on 10/22/2016 8:33:26 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Can you bet on elections in Vegas? I didn’t think they laid odds for elections there.


2 posted on 10/22/2016 8:35:50 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: bigbob

Is betting on elections legal in Vegas like sports betting is?


3 posted on 10/22/2016 8:36:52 AM PDT by Gideon7
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OddsChecker, from last week, had Trump down 1/7 underdog. Now, he is only 1/4 underdog and climbing.

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner


4 posted on 10/22/2016 8:38:31 AM PDT by sagar
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To: bigbob

Well, he better listen to Larry Sabato who says that Hillary is positioned for a blowout. God, how i want to see these pollsters and talking heads explode.


5 posted on 10/22/2016 8:39:32 AM PDT by surrey
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To: bigbob

If they’re rigging the polls to affect turn out, it shows that our votes actually count.

On the other hand, it could be that they’re making the polls to be exactly as their phony vote tally will be. That means our votes don’t count. Which means a completely rigged election for God knows how long.


6 posted on 10/22/2016 8:40:57 AM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: bigbob

I took a look at some British betting sites. They all have Hillary as the overwhelming favorite. Paddypower’s odds:

Hillary: 2/11
Trump: 9/2

But most of these sites also pointed to a Brexit fail, so they are far from being perfect.


7 posted on 10/22/2016 8:41:44 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: surrey

Yeah, just watched Sabato on Cavuto........no to Trumpo


8 posted on 10/22/2016 8:44:00 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Vegas puts it’s money where it’s mouth is so there could be something to it.


9 posted on 10/22/2016 8:46:01 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: bigbob

Interesting. Odds makers have no dog in the hunt

When folks actually have to cast a ballot the image of Hillary as POTUS will scare many of them


10 posted on 10/22/2016 8:49:08 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: bigbob

Numbers guys do not use “trust me I’m an expert” to support their arguments, they use numbers. I question this source.


11 posted on 10/22/2016 8:50:28 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: surrey

You and me both! If guys like Sabato prove to be correct it will just prove for sure that the country has already been lost. But I think we have this one last chance to turn things around.


12 posted on 10/22/2016 8:53:40 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: bigbob

I think this is legit. It’s not that difficult to see how the polls are being manipulated. Democrats are being massively oversampled, obviously to put Hillary ahead. What’s interesting is that even with the oversampling she’s still just barely coming out on top or is slightly behind.

I do believe we are seeing a conspiracy to suppress Trump voters and to make voter fraud in key battleground states seem plausible in retrospect.

Does that make me a conspiracy nut? No - believing that the Russians are responsible for all the Wikileaks dumps and are planning to “fake” voter fraud reports would make me a conspiracy nut.


13 posted on 10/22/2016 9:00:32 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Junk Silver

when you have people colluding and working on the edge if not illegally to incite violence, violate election laws, etc - how hard is it to imagine they’d have any problem fudging some numbers in a spreadsheet?


14 posted on 10/22/2016 9:11:27 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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Well bookmakers just adjust the odds to keep the bets balanced... in effect the bookmaket is selling two items... and is adjusting the price of the two items so that they sell equally... bookmakers want to keep their risk equal depending on which ever way they paid out


15 posted on 10/22/2016 9:11:32 AM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: bigbob
Just to make it a bit easier to read:

Good morning, I’m still reporting on Las Vegas Oddsmaker Says Donald Trump Will Win A lot of you have asked why I’ve not covered the polls for several days.

Well, the MSM polls have all fallen into line. Even the UPI State Poll is either right and Clinton is the sure victor, or they too have fallen in the grip of the Clintonistas. I’ll try to do a poll report very early tomorrow morning. But if it’s not up 7 am Pacific, then it won’t come out until noon PST.

However, a California reporter friend of mine just sent me this. It’s anonymous and unverifiable - and perhaps it’s just wishful thinking, but my sense is this may be true. It is written very poorly – without the usual scientific detail that all my polling reports usually contain. Is this an obvious flaw, warning us to dismiss it out of hand, or an overtaxed person dashing off a note to a friend – who then asks for a few more details so he or she can put it out for public consumption? I don’t know.

So, just throw this in your hopper for consideration. Just weigh it properly. This broke 2 hours ago. From a Vegas Oddsmaker: “I am a non partisan actuarial mathematic and scientifically based odds maker, for large Vegas casinos. I am paid to be correct, and if I am wrong, I do not get paid, or will be fired, or worse, seriously. “Following the third debate, I have Trump up over Clinton 12 To 14 points, except in Massachusetts, and California, where Clinton has an 8 point lead. “The latest narrative from the media is that Hillary has an insurmountable lead in New York. Thus is also lie. “The narrative of media hype of somewhere between a landslide and a narrow win for Clinton, in fraud polling - please quote me - is a BIG LIE. “Trump will be the next President of the United States. “I have not been wrong in picking the winner of all US Presidential races since 1964, and I will not be wrong now.

By the way, it really helps us if you be sure to like, comment and forward this video to friends. I’m still reporting from Washington. Good day.

16 posted on 10/22/2016 9:16:53 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You can bet on ANYTHING in Vegas.


17 posted on 10/22/2016 9:17:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: bigbob

This works for me. :)

Besides, if Hitler Clinton is elected after all the info about her lying, stealing, cheating, letting our people die when they called for help, the fight starting at Trump rallies, the voter fraud from her camp, the endless negative info from Wikileads about her and her aides and what they think of Americans and even their donors, the complete corruption inside the DNC, then the country is lost even before the election happens.

All we can do then is prepare for the next phase of whatever America becomes. Chances are it will get really bloody in certain places at certain times. Be prepared and stay aware of your surrounding at all times; especially post election day. Carry whatever you can legally to protect yourself unless things get so bad that you don’t need to care about legalities. Pray we come out the other side a winner and figure out what to do with all the corrupt people who voted for clinton. Mexico has been sending us their losers forever; maybe it’s time to return the favor and send them ours; all 100 million of them.


18 posted on 10/22/2016 9:17:36 AM PDT by Boomer (Is it time for a new "Freedom Party" to emerge to replace the GOPe and the radical dems?)
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To: Toespi

When they interview Sabato after Trump wins he will still be saying that their is no way Trump can win based on his polling.


19 posted on 10/22/2016 9:20:53 AM PDT by AmericanMade
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To: bigbob

Has Dick Morris said anything yet?


20 posted on 10/22/2016 9:37:44 AM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered. All it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage.)
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