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1 posted on 10/11/2016 1:34:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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In the governors race in my commonwealth of Kentucky last fall, Bevin was behind in the polls by 5%.

He won by 9%.

This is a hint at what I think about polls.


2 posted on 10/11/2016 1:36:14 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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What poll besides the NBC garbage poll shows her trouncing?


3 posted on 10/11/2016 1:36:49 PM PDT by Mjreagan
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The silent majority is going to have to really materialize this time, I think they can and I hope they can


4 posted on 10/11/2016 1:37:23 PM PDT by turducken
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He said “If they let you”. That is not an assault.
5 posted on 10/11/2016 1:38:35 PM PDT by Bronzy (America needs Trump to stop the insider gravy train. No insiders)
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Of course when you realize the conclusion of this article is mostly based on an NBC Poll managed by a paid Hillary adviser, it gets very hard to take it seriously

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3479091/posts


6 posted on 10/11/2016 1:39:33 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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Conservative Treehouse has a great post about the NBC/WSJ poll the MSM keeps quoting. It seems a Pro-Hillary PAC paid $250 to the firm to conduct the poll and the CEO of the firm worked for Obama and currently works for the Hillary campaign.


7 posted on 10/11/2016 1:41:10 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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In just a few weeks President-elect Trump will be the talk around the planet.


8 posted on 10/11/2016 1:41:24 PM PDT by GilGil
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That WSJ poll has been exposed, smaller than normal sample, cut short by a day to limit to lewd scandal.


9 posted on 10/11/2016 1:41:48 PM PDT by Kenny
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I live in one of the bluest of blue states. I have seen many Trump signs in my travels. Only one sign for Pickles.


10 posted on 10/11/2016 1:42:40 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (If Trump loses, America dies)
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Things have become so ugly that in my circle of facebook friends, that there have been posts in the last couple of days asserting that people who are planning to vote for Trump are no different than those who voted for Hitler. People are writing this about their friends and acquaintances! So, if some people up until a couple of weeks ago were lying to pollsters about intending to vote for Trump, you can bet even more are lying now. Don't trust the polls.
12 posted on 10/11/2016 1:45:46 PM PDT by utahagen
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Polls are tools for rigging the system.


14 posted on 10/11/2016 1:51:00 PM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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My belief is that the Clinton camp knows they’re headed for defeat.

They’re now working on the stolen election/endless recount phase of the project.

The rigged polls are pablum for the low information voter to make them believe that the GOP stole the race from the DEMs.


15 posted on 10/11/2016 1:51:01 PM PDT by Preston Manning (When standing on the edge of a cliff, a "giant step forward" is NOT progress!)
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RISING BATTLE MUSIC
17 posted on 10/11/2016 1:57:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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What were the poll numbers for Barry and Mitt, at around the same time?

Or during McCain/Palin?


18 posted on 10/11/2016 1:58:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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IL Republican Gov now has a TV ad out against Trump. I have been unable to find it online, but I saw it today on TV.

Rauner finally speaks out against Trump, but won’t say if he still supports him

Tuesday, Oct 11, 2016

* AP…

Republican Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner has largely avoided any discussion of the presidential candidacy of Donald Trump.

That changed Monday, when Rauner directed harsh criticism at Trump for the vulgar remarks captured in a 2005 video, although he didn’t mention Trump’s name.

Speaking after participating in Chicago’s Columbus Day parade, Rauner said the rhetoric, the language, the statements in the video was, “disgusting, appalling, outrageous, beyond any reasonable bounds of decency.” He reiterated his refusal to back Trump.

* Sun-Times…

When asked whether he supports Trump, Rauner said instead that he’s “not endorsing him.”

Rauner, as head of the Illinois Republican Party, didn’t attend this year’s GOP convention and has not endorsed Trump, but he has said he would vote for the Republican nominee. […]

At an event Downstate Saturday, Rauner said, “I’ll say this. The rhetoric in this presidential campaign [is] appalling, disgusting. As a father [and] as a husband, the language is vile and repulsive, and I condemn it in the strongest possible way.”

Asked if he’ll still support Trump, Rauner replied on Saturday, “I’ve made my comments.”

* Tribune…

Rauner’s handpicked state GOP chairman, Cook County Commissioner Tim Schneider, has not issued a formal public statement about Trump’s leaked comments. Email requests to the Illinois GOP for comment since Saturday gained no response. […]

All politics may be local, but timing also can be a factor. The Sangamon County Republican Party sent fliers to mailboxes in Springfield on Saturday soliciting vote-by-mail for the GOP ticket, political literature that featured Trump.

But the mailer, arriving only hours after the release of Trump’s recording, also had photos of Sen. Kirk and Rep. Davis, who by then had called for Trump to drop out.

http://capitolfax.com/2016/10/11/rauner-finally-speaks-out-against-trump-but-wont-say-if-he-still-supports-him/


20 posted on 10/11/2016 2:03:29 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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What really scares me is “early voting” (which I despise whatever happens). Hillary is reported ahead in early voting in several battleground states.

Meanwhile, i have my bright-red new shirt for Election Day! I intend to do it right!!!


25 posted on 10/11/2016 2:10:38 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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What I want see is something current on the battleground counties.


26 posted on 10/11/2016 2:15:03 PM PDT by Reily
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But there would have to be a large margin of error if the latest polls on the American election are incorrect.

Technically speaking, and the technical matters here, Margin of Error in this context means the likely maximum error in the sample proportion due only to random variation in who happened to be selected. Margin of Error as reported depends only on the size of the sample. In an honest, well-designed survey the reported margin of error is extremely likely to be accurate.

Margin of Error specifically excludes survey bias. There are two much larger sources of bias this year than in previous elections. First, Trump voters have even less trust in pollsters than in 2012 - conservatives are far less likely to respond at all to these polls than in the past. Second, polling organizations are being very strongly encouraged to find the desired polling results, more strongly than ever before, and many are changing how they conduct their polls to make the customer happy.

I am not saying that the polls are way off and Trump is really leading. My point is that I don't know and neither do any other professional pollsters this year. They try to extrapolate from demographics, but regardless of demographic, Trump voters are less likely than ever to respond. We don't know by how much. No one knows, not even pollsters.

31 posted on 10/11/2016 2:40:44 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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Brexit was supposedly behind by 11 percent the day before the election. It won by about 8 percent.


32 posted on 10/11/2016 2:43:33 PM PDT by Defiant (The Koran is the Mohammunist Manifesto.)
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[Speaking after participating in Chicago’s Columbus Day parade, Rauner said the rhetoric, the language, the statements in the video was, “disgusting, appalling, outrageous, beyond any reasonable bounds of decency.]

Do you know is APPALLING, GOV. RAUNER?

Governor Bruce Rauner signed the bill on Friday, August 21, 2015. Therapy for minors with unwanted, unchosen “gay identities” is now illegal.

Gov. Rauner Signed Vile “Health Care Right of Conscience” Bill into Law 7/29/2016


33 posted on 10/11/2016 2:44:34 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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