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Did the Polls Miss Brexit and Maybe Trump Too?
Talking Point Memo's Editor's Blog ^ | July 6, 2016 | Josh Marshall, Editor

Posted on 07/06/2016 6:33:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

After the UK voted to leave the European Union a week ago, there was a lot of talk about how the polls blew the result, predicting a "Remain" win when in fact "Leave" managed a close but clear victory. The rejoinder to this criticism - I think a valid one - was that the balance of polls showed "Remain" in the lead but only barely. A better interpretation of the data was that the race was too close to call.

Beyond the statistical margin of error, there were aspects of the contest that made it difficult for pollsters to accurately model. If we combined statistical with what we might call methodological margin of error, the margin of the "Remain" lead was well within this combined margin of error.

But now TPM Reader DF sends me an email with a link to a study which puts the whole picture in a very different light - and even suggests, by implication, that Donald Trump might be doing better than we think.

Three public opinion experts, Harold D. Clarke, Matthew Goodwin, and Paul Whiteley, ran 121 Brexit polls through a statistical model intended to correct for methodological 'artefacts' and the 'house effects' of each pollster polling the race. After they ran the numbers through their model they came up with adjusted data that showed "Leave" was actually always ahead - sometimes by a bit and sometimes by a lot, but always ahead....

(Excerpt) Read more at talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; brexit; hillary; trump

1 posted on 07/06/2016 6:33:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump people tell pollsters to “go to hell”.


2 posted on 07/06/2016 6:34:32 PM PDT by WENDLE (THIS WAS A RAPE OF LADY LIBERTY!! IT SHALL NOT STAND!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But now TPM Reader DF sends me an email with a link to a study which puts the whole picture in a very different light - and even suggests, by implication, that Donald Trump might be doing better than we think.

Well yes. The internals on polls are a joke. Learned to know what you are looking at TPM.

3 posted on 07/06/2016 6:43:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When free speech is subject to terrorism people just won’t speak the truth but they will act.


4 posted on 07/06/2016 6:46:56 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would vote for a dead skunk before I would vote for Hillary. But when the pollsters call I lie lie lie to them that she’s my favorite, ever.


5 posted on 07/06/2016 6:57:05 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t answer phone polls, don’t do on-line polls. To all of them it is NOYB.


6 posted on 07/06/2016 6:58:37 PM PDT by rstrahan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ignore all polls

Get out the vote


7 posted on 07/06/2016 7:28:40 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polls from corrupt media are designed to suppress voter turnout... pure propaganda


8 posted on 07/06/2016 7:51:04 PM PDT by sheehan (Vote TRUMP, do it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I answered a poll tonight that asked me what I think of the Democrat candidate for President...I told them the candidate belonged in jail.


9 posted on 07/06/2016 7:56:32 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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