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Trump gives a direct, strong answer on transgendered people and bathrooms.
Althouse ^ | April 21, 2016 | Ann Althouse

Posted on 04/21/2016 1:22:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I like the way he focused on the role of law. North Carolina enacted a law, and now "they're paying a big price, and there's a lot of problems." Law wasn't needed, because: "There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate, there has been so little trouble." There was already a social adjustment that accommodated people who needed to be accommodated.

Asked whether he would let Caitlyn Jenner, a trans woman, use the bathroom of her choice at Trump Tower, he said he would. He added, "There's a big move to create new bathrooms. Problem with that is … first of all, I think that would be discriminatory in a certain way. It would be unbelievably expensive for businesses and for the country. Leave it the way it is."

He was clear, practical, and sensible. He didn't go into impugning anyone on either side but saw it in terms of economics and law — and by law, I mean the limits of law, where it should end and where social etiquette works.

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Scroll to 8:24 for the relevant part.

ADDED: Trump seems to be letting his roots grow out. Can we expect to see him with a fully white head of hair by the time the election rolls around? The location of the white part now gives some clues as to the directionality of the combover. I hope he gets a haircut soon, leaving the whole crazy swirl shorter and removing all that's left of the orangosity.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues
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To: kjam22

The only things we demand be straightened out by Trump are THE WALL to stop illegal immigration, THE ECONOMY (Stop the Cheap labor express Globalists0 and REBUILD THE MILITARY!Anything else is gravy.


141 posted on 04/21/2016 2:18:55 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: LibFreeUSA

This issue is not just bathrooms, because when the mentally ill man gets to use the bathrooms of women, he also gets to use the changing rooms, showers, locker rooms, saunas.

To compound the problem, the Department of Justice leaned on a public school district with threat of withdrawing funds because a transgender (mentally ill boy) wanted to use the girls’ locker rooms. They let him use a stall with curtain in the locker room, but he didn’t want to be treated differently. He sued and the federal government sided with him that he had a right to stand naked with a penis in front of girls and see them naked in order to feel like a girl.


142 posted on 04/21/2016 2:20:39 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: LibFreeUSA

Cruz hours focus on trump saying he would provide a pathway to citizenship for illegals.


143 posted on 04/21/2016 2:20:42 PM PDT by Leto
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So what’s your point?. A person’s privacy when nature calls is assured by a stall, inside BOTH male and female bathrooms AND unisex bathrooms.


144 posted on 04/21/2016 2:24:08 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Amendment10
I forgot the thread, but some article had pointed out a reasonable problem with men’s and women’s restrooms. Simply put, if somebody needs assistance with using a restroom, small children or someone in a wheelchair as examples, and the caregiver is of the opposite sex, then men’s and women’s restrooms become obstacles. That said, I don’t see any quick, practical remedies to the situation.

Yes. In the last year, my 87 year old Mom broke her hip and her wrist. I like to get her out of the house, but what if she needs a potty? She's not wheel chair bound, but I don't want her falling in some public restroom.

145 posted on 04/21/2016 2:26:49 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: chris37

-—Do you?-—

Of course I do...

Today a man dressed as a woman walks into a women’s bathroom, all sorts of alarm bells go off...

At some point, people won’t say a thing because they will not want to be accused of discrimination...

Silenced by the PC police...

Free reign for perverts..


146 posted on 04/21/2016 2:26:51 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lol, yep.


147 posted on 04/21/2016 2:27:36 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: Mollypitcher1

We Trump supporters have that rare thing called Common Sense!

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So how is a pathwart for illegals to citizenship common sense?


148 posted on 04/21/2016 2:28:32 PM PDT by Leto
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Must be difficult to be a Trump supporter having to contort endlessly to explain Trump’s liberal policy statements.


149 posted on 04/21/2016 2:30:31 PM PDT by double_down
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To: PhiloBedo

It was a city issue until the state decided to move against the city. It will end up in the Supreme Court where we will all lose.


150 posted on 04/21/2016 2:30:44 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Popman

“Today a man dressed as a woman walks into a women’s bathroom, all sorts of alarm bells go off...”

I am not 100% sure that is the case anymore.

If you have a guy who for whatever reason believes he is a woman, and has taken measures to assume that identity, and that guy goes into the ladies room to use it and for no other reason, I’m not sure that sets off all sorts of alarm bells anymore.

For instance, if Bruce Gender went into the ladies room somewhere, I’m pretty sure everything would be okay.

But, on the other hand, if you have a perverted sex criminal invading ladies rooms in drag or not in drag, I think perverted sex criminal is going to be in heap big trouble.

Like I said in other posts, I am old fashioned and traditional. I prefer ladies and mens room designations.

But I am not sure this current situation is as big a deal as some may think.

People are fully capable of committing crimes in these private rooms even now.

Does allowing transgender people to use their room of choice increase the probability of a person running into a criminal lying in wait in there?

I don’t know. I think the jury is out on that at this time.


151 posted on 04/21/2016 2:33:41 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: tiki

Since you apparently don’t know, let me explain what a stall consists of:

The walls are approximately an inch thick. They are situated at approximately a 6-1/2 foot height, with about one foot of crawl space underneath. The gaps between the walls are wide enough that, if someone is trying, they can see about anything they would like to see. And don’t get me started on the locks that don’t work half the time.

By the way, women are NOT exposed to full grown-grown men every day in that way and you know it!

As far as mace and tasters, they’d better hope that’s all that happens to them if one is found in the ladies’ room with me. I’ll consider the man is up to no good and will shoot first and ask questions later.


152 posted on 04/21/2016 2:36:49 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: lodi90

What Donald Trump believes is agitprop?


153 posted on 04/21/2016 2:38:13 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump needs to try and not get bogged down on these kind of Social Questions. After the Maelstrom with Chris Matthews on the Abortion question I think he has to steer a course around those kinds of things so that he stay on message.

Frankly I worry less on Social Issues as I think we need to focus on the Big Picture, the economy, the debt, the deficit, and health care costs. Otherwise Social issues will be the least of our worries. Surviving will.


154 posted on 04/21/2016 2:38:33 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Leto

So how is a pathwart for illegals to citizenship common sense?
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Common sense says there are perhaps some who are worth keeping.

Thanks to Werner von Braun, formerly head scientist in Hitler’s V 2 rocket program at Pennemunde, the United States put the first man on the moon.

Some people are “worth keeping” regardless of their past.
There is an old expression that applies, “Cutting off your nose to spite your face.”


155 posted on 04/21/2016 2:39:30 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: USMCPOP; All

That’s a good example.


157 posted on 04/21/2016 2:48:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: inpajamas

Point missed,again.

the original poster doesn’t like seeing repeat posts on the same subject I said ignore them and move on but you missed that,see wasn’t that easy,maybe not?


158 posted on 04/21/2016 2:50:49 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: inpajamas

Plus you neglected to take the time to go back and read what I was commenting on


159 posted on 04/21/2016 2:52:53 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: chris37; map
I'm already 3 steps ahead of you boys. You don't see it coming, do you?

We're talking Trump's America now where single sex bathrooms have become the norm -- just like it will be some day in his hotel with an attitude that accepts what he by his own admission does now.

I can hear it now:

"Hey, it's all for "business" reasons right?"

"Men's room, Women's room. That's so 20th century. We don't make that distinction anymore."

"I'm Trump and I let men pretending to be women go into my Trump Tower bathrooms all the time and I don't care if it happens to bother the real women who are in there!"

Urinals in genderless bathrooms in Trump Tower and everywhere else is where this is ultimately headed.

A flasher's paradise.

Trump is just the Biff character from the Back-to-the-Future movies writ large.

We'll soon learn more of what comprises Trump's vision of what he means by making America "Great."

I suspect it will look very different from anything his acolytes today think is Great.

But like Obama's acolytes did in 2008 Trump's acolytes do today.

The cult of personality has over taken reason for many on this board of late.

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160 posted on 04/21/2016 2:56:23 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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