Posted on 04/10/2016 10:24:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
As the Republican presidential race moves toward its closing stages, more and more attention is being focused on the race for delegates.
It is that contest that will decide whether front-runner Donald Trump can become the GOP nominee or whether someone else — his closest rival Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) or perhaps some compromise candidate who has not participated in the primaries — can wrest the prize away from him.
Many elements of the delegate race are complex and confusing. Here, we try to answer the most frequently asked questions.
What are the basics?
There are expected to be 2,472 delegates to the Republican National Convention, which will be held in Cleveland from July 18-21. Their votes will decide who becomes the GOP’s presidential nominee. That means the support of 1,237 delegates is needed in order to win the nomination.
Where do things stand right now?
According to the Associated Press’s delegate tracker, businessman Donald Trump has 743 delegates, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) has 532 delegates and Ohio Gov. John Kasich has 143 delegates. They are the only major candidates still in the race.
However, Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), who suspended his campaign last month, has 171 delegates — more of which later.
So what does that all mean?
Trump is the only candidate with a legitimate shot at reaching the magic number of 1,237 by the time the final Republican primaries are held on June 7. For him, reaching that goal is tough but plausible. He would need to win well over 60 percent of the 769 delegates who are still up for grabs in the contests that remain.
What happens if he fails?
Fun for the news media and armchair pundits; chaos and tension for Republicans. The candidates would arrive at the convention with the identity of the nominee in doubt for the first time since 1976. On that occasion, incumbent President Gerald Ford held off a challenge from Ronald Reagan and his supporters.
So…?
The theory is simple enough at the outset. The delegates will vote. If no one has an outright majority on the first ballot, there will then be a second ballot and, if necessary a third, a fourth and so on, until someone wins a majority.
Couldn't that go on forever?
In 1924, Democrats selected John W. Davis as their standard-bearer — on the 103rd ballot. They went to all that trouble in vain, too: Davis lost to Calvin Coolidge in the general election.
But seriously, how will it end?
No one really knows. But one key distinction is whether delegates are bound or unbound.
Explain.
Although we say that each candidate “has won” a certain number of delegates, that’s actually a generalization. They don’t necessarily belong to the candidate. They may not even, on a personal level, like the candidate. They tend to be local organizers and party loyalists who earn their ticket to Cleveland via winning local, county and state-level elections. Since most modern conventions have simply served to rubber-stamp clear verdicts delivered by the voters in primaries, the issue of the delegates’ personal preferences has been largely irrelevant. This year, it isn’t — unless Trump reaches 1,237 of course.
But the bound and unbound thing…?
At the first ballot, around 95 percent of the delegates will be “bound.” That means they are obligated to vote for the candidate to whom their support has been allotted via the results of the primary or caucus in their state. Trump is virtually assured of winning a strong plurality on that first ballot. But, assuming he fails to win an outright majority, he could be in a much weaker position on subsequent ballots.
Why?
Because in many states, delegates are bound only for the first ballot. By some estimates, the proportion of total delegates falls from about 95 percent on the first ballot to 25 percent on the second ballot. And that process continues. California’s delegates, for example, are bound for the first two ballots but are then free to vote as they please. In the winner-take-all state of Florida, its 99 delegates are bound to the primary winner — Trump — for the first three ballots.
But will delegates who become unbound always change their minds?
No. A delegate originally bound to support Trump or Cruz could stick with him till the bitter end. And that’s why the campaigns are now furiously trying to make sure that as many genuine supporters as possible get chosen at state conventions as delegates. If the delegate genuinely supports the candidate to whom he or she is bound, then them being unbound will make no difference.
Conversely, though, once delegates are unbound, they could just throw Trump overboard and vote for someone else?
Theoretically, yes. But whether such a move is truly feasible is a more difficult question. Let’s assume Trump gets around 1,200 delegates but falls short of 1,237. He would no doubt claim to be the moral victor of the primary process, and he would have a strong case. In that kind of scenario, many experts think it is more likely that enough delegates would back Trump to put him over the top, rather than risk a potentially chaotic multi-ballot fight — and the danger of being seen as thwarting the will of voters.
So Trump needs to make the case that he’s the obvious winner. How does Cruz overcome that?
Partly by asserting that Trump would be a catastrophic choice as the nominee in the general election. Cruz is also running a well-organized operation to get as many true supporters as possible elected as delegates. He has enjoyed some success this week in Colorado, for example. Basically, Colorado elects delegates directly, not through a binding primary or caucus. Those delegates are technically unbound so the more actual supporters a candidate can get elected, the better for them.
What about those Rubio delegates? They could be crucial, couldn’t they?
Yes, they could. And what happens to them varies from state to state. There is considerable confusion about their status. In some states, delegates won by a candidate who has suspended his campaign are regarded as unbound. Rubio has written to some state Republican parties asking that his delegates not be released. But, although Rubio could recommend that his delegates back someone else, there would be no real obligation on them to do so.
Anything else?
Yes. All the rules could get changed before the convention starts, making everything you’ve just read irrelevant.
What?
The rules for each convention are ultimately decided at the convention itself. In 2012, for example, a rule was passed stating that a candidate could only have their name placed in nomination if they had won a majority of the delegates in eight or more states. At the time, this was widely seen as an effort to thwart possible machinations from supporters of then-Rep. Ron Paul (Texas). But the rule — Rule 40 — is a leading contender to be changed, since it would seem to limit the number of alternatives to Trump who could be put forward. Right now, no one else would qualify, although Cruz might well get across the threshold by the time the primaries end.
But all of the rules could be changed?
Technically, yes. For example, the rules could be changed to enable delegates to immediately unbind themselves. This isn’t so outlandish as it sounds — on the other side of the partisan divide, supporters of then-Sen. Edward Kennedy tried this maneuver in 1980, aiming to oust sitting President Jimmy Carter as the Democratic nominee. The Kennedy effort failed, however, and any similar effort would be hugely controversial among Republicans this year. Trump has already predicted there could be riots if he fails to win the nomination.
>>MATT DRUDGE @DRUDGE 5h5 hours ago
>>Does George Bush have to invade Colorado to make it a Democracy? STUNNING Republicans had NO PRIMARY or CAUCUS. At least Dems are faking it!
Thanks for posting this, 2nd D. And notice the bit about changing the rules on the first vote.
Agreed - seems like a well researched and well thought out article. I like how after he makes some statement and predicts the reader’s reaction (well, mine anyway).
Like his “WHAT!?” after stating that they can still change the rules!
Larry Nichols and Roger Stone have been warning us about this, yet the chitter-chatter about the “second vote” continues unabated.
Trump is winning in ALL of the upcoming states, with Cruz coming THIRD in the majority of them. Since Trump has well over 50% in N.Y. and almost that in Pa. ( which he just may get over the 50% hump in too ), all of this talk about a brokered convention, when Trump is well on his way of getting at the least, the 1237 delegates, even with the stupid machinations behind the scenes and Co. dreadful maneuver, it appears that the talk is wishful thinking.
Not so; they aren’t the ones lying and cheating.
Agreed. Done with fake parties.
Note that the delegates can vote to change the rules before the convention even starts, and they can allow the delegates, such as they are, to vote their “conscience” on the first vote.
Now that The Hill has said it, maybe the media will pick it up.
Nah . . .
But that new party would need rules to decide who is eligible to vote in their selection process. You have already set one such rule, must be someone who has never been an official of any kind in another party.
So if you get to set rules for your party, why can’t Republicans set the rules for their selection process.
A wonderfully poetic read, and right on target, as regards the current state of politics in this country. I hope it’s been posted on the forum.
They and all of us, can then kiss this nation good bye. Is THAT what YOU want to happen?
Rules? We don’t need no stinking rules.
That seems increasingly obvious.
On the plus side, this rigged election should help people, even people with normal thought process,to see it.
Here is another one, though, not so humorous.
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/04/10/would-a-clinton-win-mean-more-wars/
Well said, windflier!
Trump has opened a can of whup-@$$ and exposed the party’s dirty laundry. He’s in first place, and the guy in second place is stealing delegates .
Example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3419584/posts?page=118#118
He got over a million votes in FL, (winner take all, got all counties except rubio’s, and delegates are bound for three ballots at the convention),
and crooze is stealing those delegates.
Disenfranchising over a million that voted for Trump.
So, each State has delegates based on the number of Republican voters in a given area, usually a county. Voters go to the primary and vote, each candidate receiving delegates based on the way the voters in each subdivision vote, yes, a very complex and confusing process.
The only reason awarding delegates and binding them to the candidate the voters voted for is complex or confusing is because it suits the party lawyers and manipulators to make it complex and confusing.
There's nothing complex and confusing about Cruz working to subvert the will of the voters, though, and no amount of lawyer BS can hide the fact that that's exactly what he's trying to do.
Whatever comes out of his sleazy mouth, his actions prove he's neither a Conservative who believes the people should control their own government or a Christian who believes people have inalienable rights granted to them by God rather than by the Party Machine.
How is this piece anti-Trump? It simply explains how the delegate process works; it favors neither Trump nor Cruz.
On second thought, you ought to send it to Trump -- he might find it helpful.
>On second thought, you ought to send it to Trump — he might find it helpful.
Hey send Cruz the Drudge headline. Because that’s the headline that’s going to cost him Indiana and California.
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