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1 posted on 04/08/2016 10:17:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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several scenarios

trump wins outright and hit the trails meeting plenty of women and talking up the women in his companies.

Cruz wins and trump runs third party and we lose.

crus wins and maybe 30 percent of republicans who support trump don’t vote for him and we lose.

Kasich or ryan sneak in and we rebel.

but I could be wrong :)


2 posted on 04/08/2016 10:27:51 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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If the GOP rejects the will of the people for the will of the money men, then I’m out. I swore off the GOP forever after I got talked into voting for that rat Mitt Romney. Trump is their only shot to get my vote.


3 posted on 04/08/2016 10:28:26 PM PDT by RedWulf
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“That’s why we can’t have nice things.”
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The above quote is the last sentence of the article. I wonder if Professor William Jacobson (the author) has been an occasional fan of the “Big Brother” TV show. The quote is a variation of something that “Big Brother” occasionally says to the cast when the misbehave.


4 posted on 04/08/2016 10:30:14 PM PDT by House Atreides (TRUMP or CRUZ --- The 1st one to get to 1237 gets the Nomination Brass Ring...PERIOD)
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Trump.


11 posted on 04/08/2016 10:53:43 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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If you want a good, solid GLOBALIST establishment loser, cruise!


15 posted on 04/08/2016 11:44:33 PM PDT by 867V309 (It's over. It's over now.)
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I am not totally versed in delegate strategy.
One thing I can tell you, as much as Cruz is more conservative than Trump, I personally believe that Trump will bring more positive change for the overall good of the country.
At the very least, we will see the wall built, that is his biggest goal and I believe it will be built or he will lose all credibility.
With a border, we at least stop the bleeding and stop the ongoing stream of parasites and potential terrorists into the country.
Without borders, you can be so 100% right on abortion or gay marriage or what have you, but you would no longer have a stable country!

With Cruz, though he said he will build that wall, I have my strong reservation. I believe many conservatives will be disappointed after 4 years of Cruz.

With all those donors, it will be biz as usual.
After decades of following the political scene and thousands of hours of research, I believe Cruz and Heidi are globalist or at least would not oppose the New World Order from Marching on, but Trump is not with that crowd.
The New world order Elite fears Trump, not Cruz.

I am all for the Constitution, but I am tired hearing how he is going to defend the Constitution as if he wrote it!
I don’t buy Trump is going to trash the Constitution.
My 2 cents


16 posted on 04/09/2016 12:07:16 AM PDT by LoveGodandcountry
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I’ve seen bunches of political fads come and go here on Freerepublic. For example, there was a bunch here all giddy about Colin Powell at one time, even cute screen names with Colin Powel in it like we see for Trump. As a former DemocRat who voted for Reagan twice, I see candidates as a whole, not from just one position or from a speech. Donald Trump is yet another one of those fads that the shallow crowd falls for. Worse though is that Donald Trump is playing them for fools while moking them by acting like an ass-clown at every turn.


18 posted on 04/09/2016 2:20:27 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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If there is a contested convention, I will be interested to hear the nominating and seconding speeches, and who is chosen to deliver them. Usually, they have been proforna, but will actually have meaning this time around.


27 posted on 04/09/2016 4:57:29 AM PDT by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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Here’s the thing that I wish the trump cultists would just open their eyes and be completely honest with themselves about:

The convention will come down to trump or Cruz. If it doesn’t, the GOPe will be rigging the game and both trump supporters and Cruz supporters (ie 90% of those of us who have voted) will burn it to the ground.

That can only happen if neither trump nor Cruz has reached 1237. To reach 1237, a candidate must obtain commitments for bound delegates by rules and procedures that vary state by state. But even those bound candidates are only bound for the first or second vote at the convention (which is why the 1237 number is critical, it ensures success in the first ballot).

All that is happening is that the Cruz campaign has taken the time to learn the state by state rules for obtaining delegates. Trump didn’t think he needed to know those rules. That is not Cruz’ fault and he is doing nothing underhanded. He is doing nothing more than campaigning by the rules. If trump is incapable of caring enough to learn the process, perhaps we should view that as a warning sign?
Given the disorganization of the trump campaign he must get to 1237 by the first vote in Cleveland. Otherwise he will likely not be the nominee. As Cruz’ chances were hampered by the inordinately large field up front, Cruz is now campaigning for the second or subsequent ballots as his path to the nomination.

There is nothing illegal, underhanded or disenfranchising about what he is doing. He is pursuing his path to the nomination by the rules that were set forth long before he became a nominee. And no amount of whining, gnashing of teeth or calling somebody a liar is going to change that fact or change the fact that he is out working trump.


30 posted on 04/09/2016 5:53:21 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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