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Trump's Narrow SC Lead in Internal Poll May Be Reason He's Attacking Cruz
NewsMax ^ | February 15, 2016 | Greg Richter

Posted on 02/16/2016 9:03:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Internal polling by the Jeb Bush campaign showing Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is within 2 points of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump in South Carolina is leading to speculation that it might be the reason Trump is going after Cruz so hard.

Fox News media reporter Howard Kurtz tweeted about the Bush internals on Sunday and Politico reported on them.

Howard Kurtz

Internal poll for Bush PAC shows much tighter SC race: Trump 26,
Cruz 24, Jeb 12, Rubio 11--while public surveys give Trump
a huge lead

Internal polling by the Jeb Bush campaign showing Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is within 2 points of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump in South Carolina is leading to speculation that it might be the reason Trump is going after Cruz so hard.

Fox News media reporter Howard Kurtz tweeted about the Bush internals on Sunday and Politco reported on them.

Here are the results, according to the internal poll:

Donald Trump: 26 percent

Ted Cruz: 24 percent

Jeb Bush: 12 percent

Marco Rubio: 11 percent

Public polls give Trump a much larger margin in South Carolina. The four most recent polls in the state at RealClearPolitics, show Trump ahead by 16 percent to 22 percent....

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: South Carolina; Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: cruz; tedcruz; trump
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To: Helicondelta

Do you post on DU too? I’ll bet they think you’re a hoot.


41 posted on 02/16/2016 9:31:53 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: dforest

you mean candidates don’t leak real polls,, they certainly would leak a fake poll to manipulate the voters into whatever they wanted them to think.. it’s a standard tactic when you are getting your A$$ handed to you


42 posted on 02/16/2016 9:32:25 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: ripnbang

Already been posted....and posted ....and posted.....and posted.

This poll could also be a harbinger of a big cheat coming on.


43 posted on 02/16/2016 9:33:49 AM PST by dforest
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Four days hence and all the specualtion will decided.

Polling Data

Poll Date Sample MoE
Trump
Cruz
Rubio
Kasich
Bush
Carson
Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 2/15 -- -- 36.3 17.8 15.8 9.8 9.3 5.3 Trump +18.5
PPP (D)PPP (D) 2/14 - 2/15 897 LV 3.3 35 18 18 10 7 7 Trump +17
SC House GOPSC GOP 2/14 - 2/14 1300 LV 2.8 33 14 14 10 13 6 Trump +19
ARGARG 2/12 - 2/13 400 LV 5.0 35 12 14 15 10 2 Trump +20
GravisGravis 2/11 - 2/13 1281 LV 3.0 37 23 19 6 9 6 Trump +14
CBS News/YouGovCBS/YouGov 2/10 - 2/12 744 LV 5.7 42 20 15 9 6 6 Trump +22
Augusta ChronicleAug. Chronicle 2/10 - 2/11 779 LV 3.5 36 20 15 9 11 5 Trump +16

44 posted on 02/16/2016 9:35:36 AM PST by deport
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Wow! A Trump guy who is honest and objective. I agree with most of what you said. I think the margin is somewhere at about 10% but has closed in the last few days and the trend is making it closer. I agree with you that a three way race favors Trump, while a two way race tends to favor Cruz. I also think that those states that are “open” primaries tend to favor Trump while the “closed” one favor Cruz. It is also possible, however, that a three way might lead to a contested convention, where both Cruz and Trump might get cheated!

I will disagree with you in that I think that the trend could move all the way into a Cruz win, which would be a disaster for Trump.

BTW, I think some of my fellow Cruisers have been unrealistic too, so hope you didn’t take offense at what I said at the beginning.


45 posted on 02/16/2016 9:35:42 AM PST by gbscott1954 (Why not a real Conservative?)
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To: jennychase
Two days old debunk poll.

I don't know if the poll is real or accurate, but the poll has not been debunked.

46 posted on 02/16/2016 9:36:14 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
you mean candidates don’t leak real polls,, they certainly would leak a fake poll to manipulate the voters into whatever they wanted them to think.. it’s a standard tactic when you are getting your A$$ handed to you

Both tactics are possible, leaking a phony poll or leaking a real poll.

47 posted on 02/16/2016 9:37:48 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: DaveyB

Cruz is doing the ads going after Trump. Can’t he respond? Or can only Cruz only after Trump? Why did Cruz not attack sooner then? Why was he pretending to be BFFs with Trump? Is Cruz believing all the stuff Levin, Beck, Lowry, Club for Growth and others say about Trump? Is the establishment helping Cruz go after Trump? I got a lot of questions.


48 posted on 02/16/2016 9:38:09 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: DaveyB

Corrected an error.
Cruz is doing the ads going after Trump. Can’t he respond? Or can only Cruz go after Trump? Why did Cruz not attack sooner then? Why was he pretending to be BFFs with Trump? Is Cruz believing all the stuff Levin, Beck, Lowry, Club for Growth and others say about Trump? Is the establishment helping Cruz go after Trump? I got a lot of questions.


49 posted on 02/16/2016 9:39:29 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On Saturday evening we will know. Till then, I’ll be doing threads on different topics than SC polls.


50 posted on 02/16/2016 9:41:05 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: deport
Interesting. Trump / Cruz have high 40's to 60's of the electorate in these polls. That is telling me that we are definitely in a throw the bum's out mood, however 40 something % still want a RINO, aka Kasich, Bush, Rubio with Carson at this point just skimming %5 off the top that would most likely go to Cruz. It is scary that we have that many mainstream "R's" willing to pull the lever again for the gestalt of the RNC /E-GOP, whole we here are so over them. Sadly, I didn't think it would happen, but we may in fact be headed for a brokered convention....
51 posted on 02/16/2016 9:44:43 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: jennychase

Ah... I see the problem.
Jeb forgot to insert the decimal point between Ted’s 2 & 4.
Problem solved.


52 posted on 02/16/2016 9:45:53 AM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (When you see a drowning liberal, throw them the anchor...)
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To: dforest

Nah, it’s just the die hard Cruz supporters who cannot believe their candidate is a distant second, or possibly third in a state where they thought they’d be strong. Frankly, I’m a little surprised, too, but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some tightening of the #s as voting day gets closer.


53 posted on 02/16/2016 9:48:46 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: gbscott1954

I’m actually a Cruz guy. I just try to be objective in how I see the race.


54 posted on 02/16/2016 9:49:51 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s definitely true, but his internal polls were also waaaay off.

I have wondered if these internal polls are a way for candidates who have no chance to lie to themselves and their staffers or otherwise convince them to continue on when there is clearly no point in doing that.

I mean I wonder what Kasich’s internal polls say.


55 posted on 02/16/2016 9:50:47 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: taildragger

That poll was a South Carolina perspective. The national polling has Trump, Cruz, Rubio in the
70% range with less than 30% split amongst the others. Trump about 10% in the lead among those
three. Nationally it is close but statewides are showing different.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html


56 posted on 02/16/2016 9:54:40 AM PST by deport
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To: LS

I am very doubtful of the “internal poll” notion.
While it might be useful for discovering niche issues, or for asking questions major polling doesn’t, when it comes down to “who will you be voting for,” the larger based, supposedly neutral polls, would seem to have smaller margins of error and thus be more accurate. For outsiders, which is what most of us are, using “internal polling” as the suspicion of campaign behavior is another face of “gut feeling” and conspiracy mongering.


57 posted on 02/16/2016 9:57:10 AM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: deport
Thanks Deport, it is a closer race between the top three you mentioned. FWIW I think Rubio is so out of his league it isn't even funny. I have had a bad gut feel about this guy since early 12', and I am sticking by it....
58 posted on 02/16/2016 10:01:04 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: 20yearsofinternet
That is a poll of the Bush family. Thus internal.
59 posted on 02/16/2016 10:11:02 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeb’s poll! We all love polls that agree with us. I agree with me all the time yet all too often I am wrong.


60 posted on 02/16/2016 10:17:39 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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