Posted on 01/17/2016 4:30:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe this is a matter of generational differences, as my grade school education provided me with a definition of two US citizen parents as the requirement.
Heck, Reagan was the president at the time.
Anyone getting pissed at Trump for raising this issue needs their head examined.
My own understanding of Natural born citizenship is simply to be born to two current Americans parents wherever they are at the time. What is so hard to understand about this?
The CFR crap was around during Cruz’s 2012 Senate campaign with Dewhurst attacking him for almost anything.
Yes, but few of your examples are members of the CFR, architects for the North America Global Initiative, if that is true, nor married to a sitting US senator, while representing the interests of a global brokerage house like Goldman Sachs.
I think so too. I read where in the days of the Constitution the definition was much stricter, however. Those who believe the Constitution is a living instrument rather than original intent types have certainly muddied the waters since, and have gotten by with it, upsetting courts with previous precedents designed for fudging original intent with leniancy.
It probably does need to be flushed out with clarity, but to put together a constitutional convention to get it done is very dangerous as it opens up a can of worms.
On this Trump is wrong. Both of Rubio’s parents were non-citizens. Cruz, however, had an American mother.
Thanks Couldn’t find when. Knew they were both now
When Cruz brought up Trumps mother who was also naturalized before his birth thought well that would include Rick too.
My answer is for RNC to give settle law since there are so many examples right within the candidates. coincidencs? Maybe not
Jindall, Rubio , Cruz , Trumo , and Santorum that’s about a third of candidates that have some form of naturalization in the generation before them. The melting pot in view every time there is a debate
A decision that includes each of their background would certainly settle law in all facets.
Yikes. Who wants to be associated with writing up a sweet little paper on North America relations between USA, Mexico and Canada, in the Obama years particularly, during the obvious global push for global interests, including Goldman Sachs. Oh well, the pay is good, right?
It doesn’t fit with conservative interests defending American sovereignty, in an era when we are being overrun with foreigners who are changing the essence of our country by remaking our population.
trump’s birtherism is gonna implode is his face cause its soo nutty its gonna shake the nuts from the trees and in the end trump won’t be qualified to be president under the nuts definiton of nbc. Is so funny!
There is no way Rubio passes the “natural born” test in my opinion, as both his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth. While he is definitely a citizen by virtue of his parents becoming naturalized after his birth while he was still a child, he is not a “natural born” citizen.
Thank you DD, for the clarification.
You couldn’t take steps to have your British citizenship rescinded as Britain did not permit it prior to the late 50’s and would always regard you if you returned to Britain as British. Britain did change the law in 1958, I believe, whereupon when you took foreign citizenship you could renounce your British citizenship. I got my American citizenship in 1957 and am thus a dual citizen. My brother, who was in the U.S. Army, got his citizenship a year or so later, and was able to rescind his British citizenship.
Rubio’s okay — I’m sure his lawyers have checked it out every which way — until he ties Trump in the polls in an important state or nationally.
“Cruz was born in Florida. No debate there. That’s why they are called “Anchor babies.”
Ted Cruz is a naturalized at birth U.S. citizen by the authority of the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, sso there is not debating the fact he is a naturalized citizen and not a natural born citizen. Arnold schwarzenegger is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and he is not a natural born U.S. citizen as required to be eligible for POTUS. Likewise, Ted Cruz is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and he too is not a natural born U.S. citizen as required to be eligible for POTUS.
Marco Rubio is a naturalized at birth U.S. citizen by the authority of the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, so there is not debating the fact he is a naturalized citizen and not a natural born citizen. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and he is not a natural born U.S. citizen as required to be eligible for POTUS. Likewise, Marco Rubio is a naturalized U.S. citizen, and he too is not a natural born U.S. citizen as required to be eligible for POTUS.
The Trump argument is that a person is not a US citizen by birth if he is not born in this country. That one of the parents is an American is not a qualification (not sure about both parents).
Can you imagine the thousands of persons who would now not be citizens?
“I happen to think a “natural born citizen†can be someone born in a foreign county to at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen.”
A person can be a natural born citizen only by birth with no allegiance to a foreign sovereign at birth or after birth. This sole allegiance is typically accomplished by being born with two U.S. citizen parents in the United States or other circumstance in which the allegiance at birth is solely to the United States of America and no foreign sovereign. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, and Rick Santorum are people who acquired U.S. citizenship by being naturalized at birth using the Immigration and Naturalization Act. Being a naturalized U.S. citizen precludes any possibility whatsoever of being a natural born citizen.
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