Posted on 10/10/2015 1:22:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
OVER the last two decades, through Bob Dole and George W. Bush and John McCain and Mitt Romney, it has become an article of faith that the Republican presidential nominee is a person blessed by, or acceptable to, the party’s establishment, meaning the elders, the bankers, the cool heads, the deep pockets.
There’s mess along the way — brief tantrums by restive voters, fleeting triumphs by renegade candidates — but order and obeisance in the end.
Is this the election cycle when that changes?
The twilight of the Republican elite?
Donald Trump’s stamina and the ascendance of Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina suggest as much. The three of them, who have led national polls since mid-September, aren’t just political outsiders, which is the label hung on them most frequently. They’re instruments of protest by Republican voters unwilling to heed the prompts and protocol that they’re expected to.
For Republicans (and perhaps for Democrats, too) this is a season of rebellion, as the chaos in the House of Representatives vividly illustrates. A consequential share of the Republican majority there have made it clear that they will not bow to precedent, not follow any conventional script, not have anyone foisted on them. No, they’ll do the foisting themselves....
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
I suspect they’re already quite perplexed. Let’s hope it stays that way.
I just read Carson’s quotes from another thread - the link was posted to you, BTW.
He sounds anything but pro-amnesty from those statements- he said amnesty is unfair to those waiting to come here legally and to use a guest worker program that only accepts applications from outside the country. These statements were from this year.
Do you have other information that shows he is pro-amnesty just as recent as these quotes?
I got a laugh about how Cruz is organizing in the south. The author conveniently ignored the blowout rallies Trump’s having in the south RIGHT NOW!! They’re so great the MSM won’t even pan their cameras to show the size of the crowds.
No look at her background. She was big into McCain’s campaign, Romney, she was the annointed GOP candidate in her Senate race. The only thing separating her from the Senators and Governors in the race is that she lost badly to a certified nitwit in her Senate race.
They just keep trying to throw Carly in there. Sorry, but she is not our choice and call her that doesn’t make it so.
Snarly Secretariat is GOPe to the core, don’t let the hype make you think otherwise.
“He’s perfectly positioned himself to own that space when Trump and Carson disappear,” said a Republican operative who is among the smartest analysts I know. “He’ll be a force to be reckoned with. I think that he has a very clear path to the nomination, as much as that horrifies me.”
You're horrified that Ted Cruz might actually win? Trump hasn't crashed...yet, and he may very well. Alternatively, he may go all the way and make Sen. Cruz VP.
This navel gazing prognosticating is mildly entertaining, but is growing stale. Trump is holding his own, and so is Carson. Cruz has maintained his position, and strengthened his ground organization. These candidates are the top tier this time. Try as they might, the drive-by mediots are unlikely to affect any change to that order. The voters will do that. The fundamental problem is that many of the primiaries are open, meaning that democRATS will vote for the Republican candidate who is weakest to the conservative base.
“Either there’s a big revolution in the GOP or Democrats win a big victory. Both will be ugly.”
A power-hungry FDR serves 4 terms, a constitutional term limit amendment passed, 1947.D Truman, 2* D.
Eisenhower, 2 R.
Kennedy, 1. (RIP) D. Johnson, 2* D.
Nixon, 2 R. Ford, 1 R.
Carter, 1 D.
Reagan, 2 R. Bush Sr., 1 R.
Clinton, 2 D.
Bush, Jr., 2 R.
Satan’s Boy, 2 D.
George III, AKA `The Terrapin of Happiness’ is scratching his head because it’s supposed to be his turn, and the establishment GOP is flibber-jibbeted over what all the fuss is about because it’s supposed to be their turn too.
“Is this the election cycle when that changes?
The twilight of the Republican elite?”
This movement will require multiple election cycles to come to fruition. It has barely begun. Ousting entrenched corrupt politicians is very difficult. We’ve hung a few heads on the wall but there are many more to go.
You are so right...WE need to start taking pictures on our cell phones and sending them into his campaign page on Face book, just to do the job the media lies about....
We need to start saying what he is talking about, the media lies all the time..local opinion newspapers are good for that...
I talk about him all the time, where ever I go....people ‘hump’ and ‘he’s not all together for POTUS’ and I just talk right over them....
I’m done being quite...I want this country Great Again and the only way that is going to happen is to say it often, loud and everywhere....
Watch them flip just to survive. They will flip big if they are serious about their run. They are in a revolution, not a campaign. That is why Trump is blowing them out of the water.
You can NOT be a namby pamby like Jeb Bubba Bush on BS and against closing our border tight and slammed shut, making illegals pay reparations by leaving and starting over, after years of living on our BACKS!
No KIDDING! Why write about truth, and accuracy, and current events breaking records, when you can magnify the small and insignificant.
Heh. Like I care what Frank Bruni thinks.
Why don’t you google “Ben Carson is pro amnesty” and educate yourself.
As to FR's comments on the article - Trump has been an asset and may be the candidate but the cheer leading here on FR reminds me a lot of the Hope and Change fever the other side featured last time around.
I find beauty in this ugly. Way effing overdue. This is what compromise and supporting assh0les just b/c they have an R behind their name.
"Ugly"? On the contrary, on the Republican side it's been vigorous but fairly collegial, at least by the standards of contemporary American politics. "Ugly" is a front-runner candidate credibly accused of massive bribery and betrayal of classified information entrusted to her, and manifestly guilty of systematic destruction of evidence. That's ugly. Mocking Jeb Bush for being a pompous nincompoop doesn't even register on that scale.
What we see here is a group of French aristocrats suddenly aware that the hammering sound might be the building of guillotines, but still secure in the assurance that the King's troops will sweep the rebels aside and business as usual resume. It's already a little late for that. And the problem with the media joining the American political establishment is that it's impossible to un-join, and that there's a place in the tumbrels reserved for them as well. If this all seems ugly to them, that's why.
Oh, the ugly is coming all right. Tis a beautiful thing to watch.
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Just another horrified gay columnist ranting. I wonder why he and Jonathan Capehart haven’t hooked up yet?
From that same link:
“Some segments of our economy would virtually collapse without these undocumented workers—we all know that—yet we continue to harass and deport many individuals who are simply seeking a better life for themselves and their families”
He has not been clear as to what he would actually do as President, but this statement indicates he is not for deportion.
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