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Republican Elites: You Can’t Secure The Border, You can’t Deport, You Can’t Stop Illegal Aliens,….
Conservative Treehouse ^ | August 22, 2015 | Sundance

Posted on 08/23/2015 12:02:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Charles Krauthammer and George Will continue to showcase their insane alignment with the DC Machine writ large. You might think of them as pundits, until you realize their punditry is expressed alignment with the policy positions of: John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Jeb Bush, Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson, Scott Walker, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Rick Perry, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, George Pataki and Jim Gilmore.

Laura Ingraham scratches the surface on the “anchor baby” issue, but more directly frames the discussion around the larger picture of failed immigration enforcement which has led to the crisis.

We are in this ridiculous place because the ‘Beltway Betters‘ have failed to enforce existing law, failed to secure the border, failed to secure employment law and lied to the American people about their intents therein.

First Krauthammer:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Here’s George Will’s latest ‘high-horse’ nonsense:

[…] The GOP, formerly the party of Lincoln and ostensibly the party of liberty and limited government, is being defined by clamors for a mass roundup and deportation of millions of human beings. To will an end is to will the means for the end, so the Republican clamors are also for the requisite expansion of government’s size and coercive powers.

Most of Donald Trump’s normally loquacious rivals are swaggeringly eager to confront Vladimir Putin, but are too invertebrate — Lindsey Graham is an honorable exception — to voice robust disgust with Trump and the spirit of, the police measures necessary for, and the cruelties that would accompany, his policy. The policy is: “They’ve got to go.”

“They,” the approximately 11.3 million illegal immigrants (down from 12.2 million in 2007), have these attributes: Eighty-eight percent have been here at least five years. Of the 62 percent who have been here at least 10 years, about 45 percent own their own homes. About half have children who were born here and hence are citizens. Dara Lind of Vox reports that at least 4.5 million children who are citizens have at least one parent who is an illegal immigrant. (read more)

Even a disinterested observer will note how all of a sudden all things to do with illegal immigration are impossible to change. The border wall is too costly; illegal alien employment can’t be stopped; deportations are impossible; birthright citizenship is settled constitutional law etc.

The audacity of Will, Krauthammer and the Republicans they carry water for is stunning.

All of a sudden now that we have a candidate in Donald Trump who actually PLANS to do, what other candidates have only PROMISED to do, both Krauthammer and Will are reversing all of their prior pontifications. Proving, they, along with a host of others like McCain, Romney, Bush et al, never intended (or intend) to stop the illegal immigration flow – it was/is all just a ruse.

Trump is forcing all of these liars, schemers and manipulators into the sunlight. Fully exposed they have no option but to display their insufferable Robert-The-Bruce bloodlines.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: borders; deportation; gop; sundance; trump; trumpimmigration
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To: Dick Bachert

Yep Dick many of us here have known over a decade what’s what about the 14th Amendment.


21 posted on 08/23/2015 12:15:56 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel

There must be payoffs to the GOPee for drug flow.


22 posted on 08/23/2015 12:16:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: x1stcav
simply kick every one of them off welfare and hit all their employers with a $100,000 fine per illegal(second time is a year in jail per) and they will self deport
23 posted on 08/23/2015 12:17:00 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Paladin2

>>Add in the IRS.

Good point. The IRS could really help to find the employers of illegals...if they weren’t busy persecuting conservatives and churches.


24 posted on 08/23/2015 12:17:38 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Of course it was planned. I was a mortgage executive from 2001 to 2005, but I only did refinances. Bank of America is especially infamous for this.


25 posted on 08/23/2015 12:18:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Altura Ct.

STFU Charles and George. You are low intelligence pundits. You do not know what Americans want. If you did, you would praise Americans for taking their country back from invaders.

There is no “can’t” in success.


26 posted on 08/23/2015 12:22:28 PM PDT by Kozy
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To: ConservativeMind
Ben Carson believes as Jeb Bush on the illegals and “birthright citizenship?”

Then he's out...

27 posted on 08/23/2015 12:23:11 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[…] The GOP, formerly the party of Lincoln and ostensibly the party of liberty and limited government, is being defined by clamors for a mass roundup and deportation of millions of human beings. To will an end is to will the means for the end, so the Republican clamors are also for the requisite expansion of government’s size and coercive powers.

There is some truth to this statement. Unfortunately, we may not have a choice. We're about to lose the country.

28 posted on 08/23/2015 12:23:12 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All of a sudden now that we have a candidate in Donald Trump who actually PLANS to do, what other candidates have only PROMISED to do, both Krauthammer and Will are reversing all of their prior pontifications. Proving, they, along with a host of others like McCain, Romney, Bush et al, never intended (or intend) to stop the illegal immigration flow – it was/is all just a ruse.


The veil is lifted...the #uniparty is exposed.


29 posted on 08/23/2015 12:23:45 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

The US government is corrupt beyond the imagination of the average American.

The government’s agents can & will confiscate ANYTHING I possess if they unilaterally decide that I have acquired it via “illegal” activities. So, these ILLEGAL ALIENS are here ILLEGALLY, and they are acquiring money ILLEGALLY. They are using this ILLEGALLY acquired money to buy homes ILLEGALLY.

If ILLEGAL aliens were treated as American citizens are treated, they would have their homes confiscated.

If US citizens in jail for felonious NON violent activities were treated as ILLEGAL alien VIOLENT criminals are treated, they would be released from prisons by the hundreds of thousands.

Go out and commit a violent crime, kill someone via drunk driving. See how long you spend in prison compared to an ILLEGAL Mexican who commits the same crime.


30 posted on 08/23/2015 12:24:01 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting Cruz is not on that list.


31 posted on 08/23/2015 12:24:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Red Steel

Red, We need to get very, very busy and spread the TRUTH on this one as it is the crux of our current problem.


32 posted on 08/23/2015 12:25:17 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fully exposed they have no option but to display their insufferable Robert-The-Bruce bloodlines.

Can someone explain this statement? Yo no comprende...

33 posted on 08/23/2015 12:25:37 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dr. K is indeed wrong on this one.
Will is wrong on a whole lot of issues, IMHO, and I no longer read him much.

maybe we should guide all the illegal immigrants to whatever nice village Will lives in?


34 posted on 08/23/2015 12:26:07 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“They,” the approximately 11.3 million illegal immigrants (down from 12.2 million in 2007), have these attributes: Eighty-eight percent have been here at least five years. Of the 62 percent who have been here at least 10 years, about 45 percent own their own homes. About half have children who were born here and hence are citizens. Dara Lind of Vox reports that at least 4.5 million children who are citizens have at least one parent who is an illegal immigrant. (read more)

35 posted on 08/23/2015 12:30:28 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: sauropod

We are not asking for expansion of government’s size and coercive powers. It’s not necessary. Simply redirect the coercive powers currently used to intimidate and harass American citizens.

The gargantuan length and breadth of the power which is the boot on our necks now is quite sufficient to round up and expel ILLEGAL aliens that are CRIMINALS. Human beings? Yes. Criminal and often very dangerous human beings.

We incarcerate American human beings for crimes, why can’t we expel ILLEGAL alien human beings for crimes???


36 posted on 08/23/2015 12:30:33 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and I suppose they’d tell the Marines on the Amsterdam-Paris train they couldn’t take out an armed terrorist and to go lock themselves in their own car and let the passengers be massacred.

Americans can do it....I have NO doubt. We just need some decent leadership for a change. Yeah, I am hoping for a BIG change.


37 posted on 08/23/2015 12:32:17 PM PDT by Aria
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are Conservatives, are Freepers about
1) Literal interpretation of the Constitution or about new penumbras just discovered in the 14th Amendment?
2) Small government or big government?
3) liberty, freedom, individualism, family or the state?
4) Malthusian-Guttmacher rationale for changes in policy?

The reality is that the 14th Amendment is very clear when taken literally. Prior to the 14th every white person born in the US was a native born citizen. Post 14th Amendment every person, regardless of race has been a native born citizen.

The fact there are now so many illegals, and so many anchor babies is a Malthusian-Guttmacher rationale for action never before seen in the Constitution.

The fact is the deportation of immigrants (legal and illegal) already in contact with the government (criminals, DUI drivers, welfare applicants) requires small government, is constitutional, consistent with our history and culture and supported by the vast majority of Citizens and immigrants.

The fact is that deportation of illegals not already in contact with the government will require an extremely big government. The fact is that it will not happen. The fact is that it is only supported by a small faction of the population. Those who attend church beside illegals, work beside illegals, live beside illegals will support the illegals and oppose the big government. They will house the illegals in their houses and churches. Big government will be faced with violating many parts of the Constitution in order to enforce the big government action.

Folks, don’t let the slogans and bumper stickers and emotions control the issue and take us down a road we really don’t want to go down.


38 posted on 08/23/2015 12:35:53 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We see clearly what they cannot see about themselves. They think they are serious thinkers. What is so eye-opening is the fact that, just like Justice Roberts, they are totally controlled by the Washington DC social environment and don’t even know it.


39 posted on 08/23/2015 12:36:46 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will has turned himself into a cartoon character.


40 posted on 08/23/2015 12:37:25 PM PDT by AdaGray
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