[entropy12]

Rand Lied about what? The visit to the secret room?
Did Rand vote for the Obamatrade bill?
Voting for cloture is not the same as voting for a bill.
Cloture motion simply allows congress critters to vote and go on record.

[ncalburt]

Cloture is the key vote.
The only vote that matters is cloture.

You can still fight the bill and amend like the Dem just did it!
Paul voted to stop debate and cram the bill thru with a simple majority..

The treaty is dead if it can get by Cloture which requires 60 votes to overcome a filibuster !

After that vote you need only a 50 votes and the VP.

Once fast track is passed the constitutional requiring 66 votes is dead.