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1 posted on 05/12/2015 7:15:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same clown who was completely wrong in the UK elections.


2 posted on 05/12/2015 7:17:28 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The utterly disgraced far-left pundit, Nate Silver, is trying to pose himself as fair. The reality is that he’s 100% for the ‘RAT candidate in every single election. He’s a pointy-headed, pencil-necked metrosexual...and really, not at all bright in spite of the reputation that liberals have bestowed upon him.


3 posted on 05/12/2015 7:20:30 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only way the Democrat party takes another Presidential election is if the Republican party runs another Democrat in an R jersey like McCain and Romney.

If they want to lose again, nominate Jeb Bush.

If they nominate Ted Cruz, everybody wins.


4 posted on 05/12/2015 7:20:48 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well I am still dejected, as I there would have to be a nationwide awakening to actually thinking on their vote for a Republican to win office.


6 posted on 05/12/2015 7:26:40 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; stephenjohnbanker

Here’s the prediction:

Hillary and Faucahontes REALLY bloody each other and split the Dems between the new left and the old but form a ticket with Thighness as Pres and Faux as VP

The GOP repeats its last two elections by the book hoping third time is a charm with their establishment candidates flooding the primaries.

Of them, Walker emerges but will not overcome Cruz and a THOROUGHOLY fed up base. The battle for the top spot will be epic and Cruz will win because he has the guts to fight. Thus a Cruz/Walker ticket.

The sheer volume of cash spent will dwarf anything predicted today as the left pulls out all stops to deep six the evil racist homophobes. There will be 24/7 WARS by the MSM to crucify the Repub ticket on subjects that have yet to be invented.

The result will be a solid but non landslide win for Cruz/Walker, a now COMPLETELY divided America that ends up in violence beginning as the returns come back in and then the “fun” really begins.

Thats my prediction.


10 posted on 05/12/2015 7:49:38 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz/Rubio (Not Martinez) is the strongest ticket available. It would be the equivalent of what was Clinton/Gore for the Dems but without all the scandals and evironmental whackism. It would be 2 young men with similar ideas doubling down.

All of a sudden the Democrats are in trouble in CO, NV, and NM. And Oregon won’t be a picnic for Hillary either.

If the GOP can’t win FL with this ticket then this whole exercise is pointless anyway, but Cruz/Rubio would be a lock. NC and MO wouldn’t be close.

VA would return as a Red State. NH would be a real battleground along with IA, OH, MI and WI.

PA would still tilt the slightest of blue and it would take a good deal of voter fraud to keep it that way because that state would be in play too. Those guys would dominate the suburbs even more than Bush did in 2000/04 when it was close.

Cruz/Rubio is an Electoral College landslide for conservatives waiting to happen.

Yeah Yeah, Walker/Rubio would be ok too, but not exciting as Cruz/Rubio and all of the states would be much closer.


17 posted on 05/12/2015 7:57:25 PM PDT by parksstp (Cruz it or lose it. Ahead with Ted. 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NOT EVEN CLOSE

The Republicans, if they perform as they did in 2014 - which means NOT RUNNING AWAY FROM CONSERVATIVES (or to put it another way...see my tag line) - have a LOCK on the South - will not even be close.

They also can EASILY lock-up the purple states (i.e., Florida, Ohio, Virgina, Colorado)...if they give whites something to vote for. Those are basically red state, and they will swing back.

Then comes the blue-leaning states (Michigan, Wisconsin, PA, and even possibly NJ and MN). Win one or two of them and it is OVER...and that is also VERY EASY as most whites in those states are FED UP with this bunch in DC and WILL NOT listen to their puppet-union-bosses in 2016 - and WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN if the Republican seems to stand for something.

...Cruz.


19 posted on 05/12/2015 7:59:05 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It will come down to how much vote fraud the democrats can get away with.


28 posted on 05/12/2015 8:20:32 PM PDT by Organic Panic ( au)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This premise also is that minorities are going to come out again in 2016 like they did for Obama.

Anybody think the black community and latinos are gaga for Hillary?


31 posted on 05/12/2015 8:47:49 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But Clinton is no sort of lock...”

Silver is right about this. She’s doing a far worse job this time than she did in ‘08.

And I actually heard the snarky girl on the Sirius POTUS channel describe the current Republican field (except for Bush, whom she was criticizing) as being filled with new and interesting candidates. She might just as well have been speaking about Hillary too, and I think she’d be the first to admit that, except for maybe the “woman president” angle.

Of course she’ll pull the lever for “D”, but still I was pleasantly surprised to hear her remark.

I’m sorry but Hillary and Jeb give old hats a bad name.


32 posted on 05/12/2015 9:07:01 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Nifster
Demographics in America have so altered the electoral college map that any strategy to put a Republican in the White House faces daunting odds. The effect of Nathan Bedford's first Maxim of American politics:

All politics in America is not local but ultimately racial.

Posters on this thread and conservative pundits on the radio blandly assure us that the problem in losing the popular vote in four of the last five presidential elections is that we have failed to run a red-blooded conservative causing the conservative base to stay at home. These assurances are worth nothing. Equally useless are assurances that Nate silver is a has been. The question is where are the data?

The data in Ohio, for example, are not at all clear that the loss was due to Romney being unable to excite the conservative base. It is apparently equally likely that Romney's cyber game and ground game were so pathetically inadequate that he was simply swamped, a real indictment of someone running as a manager and a turnaround artist at that. Michael Barone has published on this problem and even he is not clear about the root of the problem for Republicans.

I support the most conservative electable Republican and have supported Ted Cruz for quite some time. I would be content with Scott Walker but my enthusiasm falls off radically thereafter. I argue for a very conservative candidate not by assuring desperate conservatives that the nominating a conservative is a sure path to victory-it is not because media will see to that-but John Boehner and Mitch McConnell have taught me that electing Rinos is at best masturbatory, it might feel good but it avails nothing.

If one accepts that the Republic is marching headlong toward the cliff, the result of an election between Democrats and Rinos means only that a light or a heavy foot has been put on the accelerator but the breaks will be left untouched. We either save the Republic or we descend into chaos and tyranny and the only way to save the Republic is to revert to conservative constitutional values. I do not believe I exaggerate danger either to our fiscal well-being or to the ever-increasing tyranny of our government.

That necessity however is not the equivalent of inevitability. We lose elections because we run top down paid media election campaigns against a bottom-up, race-based, campaign in which the electorate has been thoroughly conditioned by institutions such as the educational establishment which are funded by the federal and state governments. The media moves in for the kill. Race is determinative. The African-American "community" is about as open to reason as the Arab Street. As to the Hispanic vote, bottom up operatives are toiling away in the barrios, Alinsky style, to achieve the same result with that demographic. These demographics are not amenable to television ads run 90 days before an election, their culture has already been set. Republicans try to re-make the culture in their own image but Democrats simply harvest the crop, often with demagoguery and always with unpaid media.

This may be the last election in which Republicans have any chance of electing a national candidate because amnesty will have rendered the prize beyond our reach.


37 posted on 05/12/2015 10:52:05 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Here's where we can get the 5 percent popular vote increase we need to change the EV count in 2016. I'm relatively certain that at least 5 percent of Blacks who voted for B. Hussein Obama in 2008 and 2012 will NOT be voting in 2016. They have had their Black President. The new has worn off and the novelty is gone. Not to mention that many in the Black community feel that the Brotha did nothing for them during his time in the White House. The Dems will NOT have a Black candidate in 2016. They will not empty out the jail houses, crack houses and HO houses on Election Day for Hillary like they did for Obozo in '08 and '12. And, that could be the 5 percent swing we need to change the EV count. Somebody give me some input on this. Am I right or wrong?
46 posted on 05/13/2015 7:51:29 AM PDT by Din Maker (Gov. Susana Martinez of NM for VP in 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve often thought that if Walker keeps making life tougher for the parasites then they would leave Wisconsin for greener pastures.


53 posted on 08/16/2015 7:03:28 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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