The term was used correctly, and as was pointed out was coined by Irving Krisol.
If you have some different 'inkling' of the term nopardons please share it.
Posted on 04/19/2015 6:22:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Bernie Sanders couldn’t have said it better:
“There’s a group of folks in our party who would have troops in six countries right now — maybe more,” the Kentucky senator told hundreds of activists at a GOP cattle call that has drawn every major presidential aspirant. “This is something, if you watch closely, that will separate me from many other Republicans. The other Republicans will criticize Hillary Clinton and the president for their foreign policy, but they would have done the same thing – just 10 times over!”
“Six countries – maybe more”? Which countries, Senator? And how many of your rivals have proposed sending troops to Syria? To Yemen? To Libya? (Do we have to count Lindsey Graham?)
Rand Paul is trying to separate himself from other candidates on foreign policy while not appearing to be a head-in-the-sand isolationist. But in doing so, does he have to lie like a Democrat about his opponents?
“Everyone who will criticize me wanted troops on the ground, our troops on the ground, in Libya,” he said. “It was a mistake to be in Libya. We are less safe. Jihadists swim in our swimming pool now. It’s a disaster.”
Did Ted Cruz want troops on the ground in Libya? Did Scott Walker, Chris Christie, or any other GOP governor who might run for president want troops on the ground in Libya? Marco Rubio specifically advised against troops on the ground in Libya, believing that the president could have intervened “more decisively” but rejecting American military intervention.
Paul’s statement is either an ignorant rant or a baldfaced lie. Falsely accusing opponents of things they don’t believe and wouldn’t do obscures Paul’s real problems with rank-and-file Republicans who want a president to stand up strongly for American interests and want to make America the pre-eminent military and economic power in the world once again. Many simply don’t believe his foreign-policy ideas are proactive enough. They are suspicious of his libertarian leanings on national-defense strategy.
One aspect of a Paul campaign Republican regulars can get behind is his position on NSA snooping:
Contrasting himself with most others in the field, Paul also promised to end the federal government’s collection of American phone records if elected president. “I’m a Republican who believes in the right to privacy,” he said. “It doesn’t mean collecting 300 million people’s phone records. The 4th amendment is not consistent with a warrant that says Mr. Verizon on it. Last I heard Mr. Verizon isn’t a person.”
“Your phone records are yours,” he declared. “It’s none of the government’s damn business what you’re doing on your phone.”
“You can say damn in New Hampshire, can’t you?” he quipped.
“Damn straight,” a man yelled back from the crowd.
NSA spying is a peripheral national-security issue and there is disagreement among the candidates about how much of what the NSA has been doing is really necessary. This is a legitimate way for Paul to put distance between himself and his rivals — as long as he accurately enumerates their positions.
But otherwise, Paul’s rank dishonesty in describing what his opponents would do if elected is intolerable. Might we see a sound bite of Paul dishonestly ripping his opponents in a Hillary Clinton commercial? Perhaps the senator should think about that the next time he feels compelled to grossly exaggerate the positions of his opponents.
And ISIS, al Qaeda, Boko haram, et al are gaining ground everywhere in the Levant, Africa, and yes, amongst people in France, Canada, England, Australia, and the USA.
Go away, Quisling; you're a fool !
Open border, Paul says to make sure its defended. Drugs legal, Paul is for lowering jail sentences regarding it... Personally I defer to the free market where drugs are concerned. Homo agenda, Paul defers to states rights as any conservative should. Anything else Manc? Are you from Manchester?
This n00b ( who might be a retread ) needs to realize that his views aren't held by the vast majority here and certainly NOT by the owner.
That’s not exactly factual and all of what you’ve posted is inane codswallop.
Use our great USAF to take out the Iranian islamonazi nuclear bomb and ICBM factories and prevent the buildup of enemy weapons that can soon quite literally destroy us ( or at least some of ourargest cities). Then inwi join you in trying to let the Muslims fight as much as they want amongst themselves. We need to be wary, to keep a close watch. We need to keep sea lanes open and free of threat. We should try I respectfully submit to help Christians from bring crucified and burnt alive in cages. Tough to do. Yes. Just do whatever we reasonably can Right now Obama is enabling funding and protecting the islamonazi nuclear Bomb and missile factories. This will Be our doom IMHO Iran has already made clear many times over that USA is their number one highest priority target We need the USAF to take out their nukes and icbms ASAP. IMHO. Then, ok we can try to fit most of their myrderous krap out so long as they keep it in house there. We agree on this. Best,
we need to face facts. We have two more full years of obamite foreign policy before we can get our guy in the White House. The odds are that the Mideast will have descended into utterly irretrievable chaos by then.
“To hell with it” may well be the smart play by that time.
At least we can disagree amicably and without trying to pull my conservative card..thanks for that. Manc, take note.
Islamic culture is simply not compatible with the values, institutions and practices that constitute modernity. It is this conflict with modernity that is causing the chaos and instability throughout the Muslim world. Eventually Islam will transform and the Muslims will arrive at some sort of consensus. American interventions in the internal affairs of these countries has been less than useful and has created bitter resentments. Unless the US is directly attacked as it was on 9/11 involvement should be minimal. Also if we are attacked again , it might be a good idea to attack the country that was actually responsible.
Do you think invading Iraq was a good idea?
Do you think Obama was right to topple Gaddafi in Libya?
Do you think we should have started a bombing campaign in Syria when Obama wanted to a couple years ago?
Just wondering.
“Rand recently proposed raising our defense budget billions, this proposed spending would also be offset by cuts to other departments. Rubio and Cruz voted against it.”
Do you have a number to that bill he presented?
Somewhere about 190 billion in the next two years. Lookup ammendment 940.
The term was used correctly, and as was pointed out was coined by Irving Krisol.
If you have some different 'inkling' of the term nopardons please share it.
Thank you. The Neo cons in the GOP must be flushed down. No more McCain’s, Grahams or Rubios.
As for the second and third queries.... no and no.
And neither do I agree with the way wee barry has mishandled every single thing he and his administration has come in contact with. He and they don't know what they're doing at all.
What is “anti semitic” about complaining about neocons?
No, it was NOT used correctly at all!
I’ve read that book, am well aware of when and how that term has been misused and abused and you should be the one to explain, if you can, just WHEN Dick Cheney became not just a Jew, but how he was a Trotskyite in college, at a time that was prior to his birth.
Let’s see, Rand Paul’s very own brother has said that both his father’s ( Nutter Papa Paul ) and Rand Paul’s ideology are the same, it’s just that they would approach it and their implitation of it would be different.
The US military has the ability to only engage in just 2 major conflicts around the world at one time, not even that now after 6 years of Obama.
Don’t know where Rand Paul is getting his bogus figures that we are in 6 wars at this time.
I was against going into Syria, but not for the reasons Rand Paul didn’t want the US to go into Syria for.
HILLARY CLINTON / RAND PAUL DEMOCRAT CANADATES FOR PRESIDENT 2016..
Rand Paul ? Your more welcomed in the Democrat party you trojan horse canadate.
There are words and terms better suited to what the misusers, on this site and others could substitute: "war monger", "RINO", the list is a long one.
Weathervain politics.
Yes, I did and still do think that the Iraq thing was a good idea.
So does Iran! We got rid of Saddam, their biggest enemy in the world. The government we put in - and this happened years before Obama came on the scene - was a Shiite gov’t made up of guys who’d been living in Iran when Saddam was in power.
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