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To: TwelveOfTwenty
"Which if true was just over half of Obama's margin of victory in the popular vote."

It wasn't the only factor. There were others, such as voter fraud, missing military ballots, etc. But no party can win without its base. Do you dispute that?

"I never said anything about a moderate woman. Joni Ernst, who I'm hoping is interested in the job, has very solid Conservative credentials."

I have nothing against Joni Ernst, but I've seen nothing to indicate to me that she's ready for the presidency.

"Herman Cain lost because he either couldn't control himself, or folded under false and easily refuted accusations. West didn't run."

That's not the point.

Conservative blacks are viewed with derision and contempt by their fellows. Hispanics largely vote to keep their government benefits. Sarah Palin was mocked mercilessly by non-conservative women.

Holding onto the fruitless wish that skin color, ethnicity, or sex is somehow going to prove the magic factor in bringing hordes of voters to support our side is just that...fruitless. Ir's amazing that you've managed to miss past examples.

As for me, I've never subscribed to identity politics and I'm not going to start.

"Are you against nominating a Conservative woman?"

Overall I prefer a male candidate. That may shock and scandalize women who are down with the sisterhood, but I couldn't care less.

IF a suitable conservative female candidate were nominated, I would vote for her, but I haven't seen any who are presidential material at this point.

31 posted on 02/21/2015 2:55:46 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon
It wasn't the only factor. There were others, such as voter fraud, missing military ballots, etc.

I saw those voter fraud links from another Freeper. About 80% of them pointed to the same information, and some refuted the points that Freeper was trying to make. None of them proved anything.

But no party can win without its base. Do you dispute that?

No, but do you think the Dem turnout was 100%?

I have nothing against Joni Ernst, but I've seen nothing to indicate to me that she's ready for the presidency.

She's as ready as any of them, and I think we'll need someone with military experience.

That's not the point.

That's what actually happened, regardless of your point.

Holding onto the fruitless wish that skin color, ethnicity, or sex is somehow going to prove the magic factor in bringing hordes of voters to support our side is just that...fruitless.

Hordes? Probably not, but I believe we would get votes from the middle that we might not get otherwise.

Ir's amazing that you've managed to miss past examples.

Ir is?;) The examples you gave did not prove your point.

As for me, I've never subscribed to identity politics and I'm not going to start.

I agree, but this isn't the electorate that voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984. We'll need every vote we can get.

Overall I prefer a male candidate.

That does surprise me.

32 posted on 02/21/2015 3:11:58 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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