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To: CatherineofAragon
It wasn't the only factor. There were others, such as voter fraud, missing military ballots, etc.

I saw those voter fraud links from another Freeper. About 80% of them pointed to the same information, and some refuted the points that Freeper was trying to make. None of them proved anything.

But no party can win without its base. Do you dispute that?

No, but do you think the Dem turnout was 100%?

I have nothing against Joni Ernst, but I've seen nothing to indicate to me that she's ready for the presidency.

She's as ready as any of them, and I think we'll need someone with military experience.

That's not the point.

That's what actually happened, regardless of your point.

Holding onto the fruitless wish that skin color, ethnicity, or sex is somehow going to prove the magic factor in bringing hordes of voters to support our side is just that...fruitless.

Hordes? Probably not, but I believe we would get votes from the middle that we might not get otherwise.

Ir's amazing that you've managed to miss past examples.

Ir is?;) The examples you gave did not prove your point.

As for me, I've never subscribed to identity politics and I'm not going to start.

I agree, but this isn't the electorate that voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984. We'll need every vote we can get.

Overall I prefer a male candidate.

That does surprise me.

32 posted on 02/21/2015 3:11:58 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
"I saw those voter fraud links from another Freeper. About 80% of them pointed to the same information, and some refuted the points that Freeper was trying to make. None of them proved anything."

ToT, I suspect you're going to reject anything that doesn't support your enthusiasm for a politically correct gender and/or ethnicity based candidate. Sorry, but that seems to be the case.

"No, but do you think the Dem turnout was 100%?"

Uh, what?

Never mind.

"She's as ready as any of them, and I think we'll need someone with military experience."

As ready as any of them...now there's a ringing endorsement. As one Freeper said, the reaction to her bland post-SOTU address seemed to be different versions of, "Bless her heart, she did fine." But she wears a skirt, so, quick---nominate her.

"That's what actually happened, regardless of your point."

No. What has happened, over and over again, is conservatives getting all excited over someone because they fill a certain niche, expecting that single factor to garner votes, and coming away mystified when the magic failed to work. But some of us still keep hoping and trying.

"Hordes? Probably not, but I believe we would get votes from the middle that we might not get otherwise."

Your belief flies in the face of what we already know.

How did Mitt win the middle vote? He's as white as the snow outside my door. Was it the magic underwear?

"Ir is?;) The examples you gave did not prove your point."

It is. You've managed to miss the real occurrences which fly in the face of your fantasy, and now you need examples on an internet forum to prove them to you. Where've you been all this time?

"I agree, but this isn't the electorate that voted for Reagan in 1980 and 1984. We'll need every vote we can get."

You don't seem to agree. This isn't the first thread where you've voiced your enthusiasm for identity politics.

"Overall I prefer a male candidate."

"That does surprise me."

Does it? Why? I ask sincerely. I'm intrigued.

33 posted on 02/21/2015 5:05:24 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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