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To: KC_Lion

Distinctness as a people is more than skin color, it is about ancestry; not so much “who’s your daddy?” but who’s your great-great-grandaddy? Jews have had a history of thousands of years as a self-identified group. Jews are concerned with inter marriage (marriage of Jews to non-Jews) this is a concern of many secular Jews as well, so it is not about religious practice. We have the phrase ‘anti-Semitism’ for criticism of Jews; if they were not a distinct people there would be no need for such a phrase, as such criticism rarely relates to Jewish religious practice. Israel has considered a DNA test for those seeking residence under Right of Return. This all sounds like a distinct people, or at least those who consider themselves a distinct people.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/russian-speakers-who-want-to-immigrate-could-need-dna-test/

The French also helped in the American Revolution but are now dismissed by conservatives as ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys.’ Just because our interests aligned then does not mean they do for all of time. The fact the French helped us once, does not seem to matter to many conservatives now. In the same way that a Jewish business man helped finance the Revolutionary war does not mean we are forever tied to Israel (which did not even exist then) or Jewish interests. This does not mean hostility, just a recognition that we are separate and may at times have diverging interests.

If Israel is God’s country then let Him protect it. I do not see why it becomes America’s job. The belief that if we do not forever stand by Israel and the Jews then God will smite us makes about as much sense as the Islamic belief in 72 virgins for those suiciding themselves ‘for Allah.’ If you are concerned with acts of Islamic violence then a good start would be preventing Islamics moving to our countries rather than us invading theirs.

Not tying ourselves so completely to Israel is no more ‘bigotry’ then not tying ourselves to Britain (who provided our founding stock) or Germany (people of German ancestry are perhaps the largest group in the US – even ahead of British, Irish etc.). Recognizing that we are different and separate is no worse than recognizing that our friendly neighbor is not family; we can remain cordial but aware that we will not always have the same hopes, desires, or interests.

It is funny how conservatives get all self-righteous about ‘bigotry’ when the subject is Israel but can be vicious when it comes to Africans, Muslims, or even the aforementioned French. Criticism or Israel (or even Jewish) activities is no worse than criticism of African or Muslim behaviour.


59 posted on 11/27/2014 6:04:39 AM PST by evilC
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If Israel is God’s country then let Him protect it. I do not see why it becomes America’s job. The belief that if we do not forever stand by Israel and the Jews then God will smite us makes about as much sense as the Islamic belief in 72 virgins for those suiciding themselves ‘for Allah.’ If you are concerned with acts of Islamic violence then a good start would be preventing Islamics moving to our countries rather than us invading theirs.

Well Apparently George Washington understood this ORDER From HaShem better than you. (Genesis 26:2-4) "And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

Of Course the 72 Virigns thing comes from the Koran doesn't it? Well, I guess that is just moral equivalency isn't it? hmm?

Criticism or Israel (or even Jewish) activities is no worse than criticism of African or Muslim behavior.

Yes, Because the Jews attacked the U.S.S. Cole, or the Khobar Towers, or The World Trade Center TWICE.

(Will be your next argument I am sure)But Al-Qaeda did those things because we invaded Iraq and helped them in Afghanistan against the Soviets!"

Well then maybe we should start blaming Soviet Aggression then if we are going to go down this line of Historical Grievances.

61 posted on 11/27/2014 6:54:04 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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