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To: Jeff Winston; MamaTexan; Windflier
Jeff Intentionally misconstrues Bingham's meaning.

Jeff Writes:
“Who are natural-born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth — natural born citizens.”

Bingham clearly states that natural born citizens are those who are CITIZENS BY BIRTH.

And this is how you know that Jeff Winston is a Deliberate Liar. He takes this Bingham quote from the very page where Bingham clarifies just a little further along. Here is the full quote.

John Bingham (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862)).

Who are natural-born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth — natural born citizens. There is no such word as white in your constitution. Citizenship, therefore does not depend upon complexion any more than it depends upon the rights of election or of office. All from other lands, who by the terms of your laws and compliance with their provisions become naturalized, and are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens.

And here is another Bingham quote, in case you think the first one was a misstatement or something.

John Bingham, (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866)).

"I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen; but sir, I may be allowed to say further, that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States not owing foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States. Citizenship is his birthright, and neither the Congress nor the States can justly or lawfully take it away from him. "

Will Jeff stop lying about what Bingham meant? I very much doubt it. Next time Jeff quotes Bingham, he is very likely to once more lie by omission.

Watch Jeff's Head explode.

248 posted on 03/18/2013 9:48:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Watch Jeff's Head explode.


249 posted on 03/18/2013 10:12:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

What’s the matter, DL? Reduced to pleading your case by quoting folks who didn’t even start talking about the term “natural born citizen” until 75 years after the Constitution was written, since no real early authorities support your idea of natural born citizenship?

Nonetheless, I’m happy enough to have Bingham fully quoted, and in context.

The MOST you could legitimately claim from the totality of Bingham’s quotes would be that he was unclear or ambiguous.

Say what you will, he has just DEFINED “natural born citizen,” according to his understanding of the term. He says that CITIZENS BY BIRTH are NATURAL BORN CITIZENS.

This is a CLEAR and DIRECT contradiction to your claim.

Let me ask you a question here. Did Bingham say that black people born within the Republic were natural born citizens?


250 posted on 03/18/2013 10:49:39 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: DiogenesLamp; Jeff Winston
He takes this Bingham quote from the very page where Bingham clarifies just a little further along.

LOL! He did the same with Tucker. Anyone can make anything say whatever they want by plucking a sentence here or there.

He's probably picked enough cherries by now to make a cobbler the size of Texas.

252 posted on 03/19/2013 2:40:12 AM PDT by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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