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Embassy politics: The eerie similarities between 1980 and 2012
Foreign Policy ^ | September 13, 2012 | Uri Friedman

Posted on 09/13/2012 7:13:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For months now, the right and the left have argued about whether this year's contest between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney is a repeat of the 1980 race between Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. It's a comparison that benefits Republicans, who want to portray Obama as helpless on the economy ('Are you better off than you were four years ago?'), feckless on foreign policy (both Carter and Obama faced attacks on U.S. embassies), and politically vulnerable (Reagan surged ahead of Carter in the homestretch; the Romney campaign has its fingers crossed).

On Wednesday, National Journal's Sophie Quinton argued that Romney's criticism of Obama in the wake of Tuesday's assaults on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya was a marked departure from Reagan's response to the storming of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and ensuing hostage crisis in 1979-1980. When Carter's effort to rescue the American hostages in Iran failed in April 1980, Quinton points out, Reagan took the high ground, asserting that "this is the time for us as a nation and a people to stand united." When Reagan later debated Carter in the fall, she adds, he refrained from answering a question about how he would handle a similar crisis because of the sensitivity of the issue.

That's some impressive restraint. But while Reagan did ocassionally express support on the campaign trail for Carter's responses to the Iranian hostage crisis (praising the decision to freeze Iranian assets, for example), he was far less diplomatic on many other occasions.

In fact, the debate between Carter and Reagan over the Iranian crisis was remarkably similar to the rhetoric we're hearing now from the Obama and Romney campaigns. Let's take a look at some examples:

U.S. weakness at fault...

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: egypt; libya; obama; romney

1 posted on 09/13/2012 7:13:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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It is all very similar, except Romney is no Reagan. Of course, he doesn’t have to be to win....just won’t be blowout.


2 posted on 09/13/2012 7:18:39 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have to disagree, this time around it’s worse than 1980.


3 posted on 09/13/2012 7:23:06 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


4 posted on 09/13/2012 7:24:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The denial is specifically about the consulate in Benghazi, not US missions in the region in general, which is essentially an admission that the UK story is accurate.


5 posted on 09/13/2012 7:28:13 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t believe that Carter thought that his backing of Khomeini over the Shah would lead to the 1979 taking of hostages.

I truly believe that BO knew that bad was going to happen and he plans to use it to his advantage.

Carter was a naive idiot (yeah, he’s evil, but that happened after he was president), but the people pulling BO’s strings are evil and think nothing of having someone die a horrible death for their political advantage.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 7:31:14 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Having worked for both of them, let me tell you, it was “night and day” like you wouldn’t believe.


7 posted on 09/13/2012 7:34:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: KosmicKitty
I don’t believe that Carter thought that his backing of Khomeini over the Shah would lead to the 1979 taking of hostages.

I truly believe that BO knew that bad was going to happen and he plans to use it to his advantage.

I believe you might be correct. If there are muslim attacks in the US, what are the odds Obama declares martial law to stop the election...or to retain power when he loses to Romney?

8 posted on 09/13/2012 7:42:24 PM PDT by Florida native
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe. I was in college in 1979 so I remember Carter’s presidency. BO is ten time worse!!


9 posted on 09/13/2012 7:49:00 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

One “small” difference: government debt was about 40% of GDP, now it’s over 100%. Congress keeps approving more bonds to be issued by the Treasury. Then they take the cash and spend it.

They don’t even make a “minimum payment” that includes at least “some” principal payback.

Only interest is being paid back.

Walks like a ponzi, quacks like a ponzi.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 8:33:16 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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