Posted on 01/19/2012 9:18:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
I mean, really. How dare you peasants tell the government what to do? How dare you tell them to stay out of your lives? Santorum 2012!
(VIDEO AT LINK)
"One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right.
They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldnt get involved in the bedroom, we shouldnt get involved in cultural issues.
That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that Im aware of, where weve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.
- Rick Santorum
First off, the phrase radical individualism is something I expect to hear from a Saudi imam. Hell, I wouldnt be too surprised to hear it from leftists in this country. When I hear it from a Republican candidate for president, I sit blinking for a couple of minutes and then curl up in a ball under my desk, crying softly.
Secondly, I have to wonder: is Santorum insane, or even more out of touch with his base than any of the other candidates? This guy has the balls to whine about people wanting the government to leave them alone? Um, Ricky, Im pretty sure the top issue for most conservatives is government overreach. Theres this thing called ObamaCare. Heard of it?
However, the true Emmy award winner of this piece is when he disputes the notion that government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low. Youre absolutely right, bud. I hope you get up on a podium tonight and deliver, in that notoriously whiny timbre of yours, admonishment to all those non-traditional conservatives who wont shut up about lower taxes and less regulation. See how that flies in South Carolina. Rick Santorum is a statist theocrat. Ive said it before, and been challenged on it. I consider this quote to be a follow up to this endlessly disturbing piece from nine years ago. Rick Santorums agenda involves using government power to enforce his morality on the American people, based not on political or constitutional ideals, but on his religious views. He is as far removed from the Tea Party, and the concept of small-government conservatism, as Barack Obama.
But lucky us! We can also choose from a socialist who provided the blueprint for ObamaCare, a serial cheater and liar with an ego the size of Neptune, or an isolationist crank who wouldnt have stopped the Holocaust if it were occurring in present day. Johnnie Walker is my co-pilot.
I thought McCain was bad enough four years ago. But now I see Republicans doing something far more vacuous.
By supporting Noot, you may get your opportunity to witness the great debate between Obama and Gingrich. But you will be doing so at the expense of seeing four more years of Obama in the White House. If the Dems play it right, they may even retain control of the Senate with Noot on the GOP ticket.
So other than wacky RuPaul, who is the small govt' candidate? The one against mandates and such.
who has examined the byzantine thing to be in a position to vouch that nothing good was tucked into its colossal badness? not you apparently.
Rick believes that without moral *underpinnings* shared by most people in a society, that society will collapse. That’s patently true. If I have a beef with his comment, it’s that he is trying to guard a horse that has left its barn many years ago.
If YOU don’t believe in the Founders’ ideal that government exists to protect life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (and property perhaps), YOUR argument is with the Founders. Rick explained his position very well on Beck on Wednesday. The Declaration is the “why” of America, and the Constitution is the owner’s manual which uses the Declaration as its preface. Bob
“moderation” not in evidence
One of the vital functions of any government is protection of private or intellectual property. I’m sorry that so many here believe that they are *entitled* to another’s creation for free. SOPA sucks, but that doesn’t mean that absolutely nothing can or should be done to curb piracy. Bob
LOL. What a delusional statement. I have studied Santorum. He has the spirit and beliefs that are the polar opposites of our Founders.
Our Founders had an instinctive and outspoken hostility towards anything but a "severely limited" government.
Rick is a pure-breed Statist that would use the power of the State to forcibly bend the individual to be subservient to "his" view of the State.
The biggest thing Rick Santorum fears is true Liberty and limited government.
When this Conservative fraud drops out, Liberty can breathe a sigh of relief.
Is piracy illegal? Are media companies not pursuing and prosecuting them?
This whole thing reeks of gun control. Armed robbery and murder are already illegal, but we’re going to make life difficult for EVERYONE and trample their rights.
SOPA and any of its bastard children are pointless power grabs, nothing more.
I hope that you have the chance to meet Rick in person one day, b/c you’ll be shocked to find that he is nothing like the absurd caricature that you and so many others have accepted. Bob
when his socalled 2nd amendment support comes up on his website as far more than about hunters, i will believe.
just a few entries below you accuse of caricaturing. physician heal thyself.
I can see your point, but MY point is that intellectual property is regularly stolen and distributed by hacks, and these folks deserve some modicum of protection. What we have now is not working. YOU clearly are not a creator of intellectual property. Cordially, Bob
So who will be the small govt' Conservative candidate when Rick gets out? The one opposed to mandates and such?
Some people believe that men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights and that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Other people believe that rights are granted by the state. People in this latter category argue that the 2nd Amendment creates the right to bear arms and the 21st Amendment proves that rights exist only when the state grants them.
I have created intellectual property, though I doubt anyone will be “stealing” it anytime soon.
Regardless, what is your proposed solution?
the medium-government one?
gingrich ain’t perfect but he’s cramful of plans to make government more frugal. anything that steps back from the obama brink is more than welcome.
As Santorum argued last night, he is the only one with clean hands when it comes to arguing against mandates and Obamacare. Mittens and Gingrich both are on the record for accepting govt' mandates at one point in the not so distant past. Of the three real candidates, who has a better argument for fighting against the Regime in the general election on the single most dangerous and destructive thing facing this country, Obamacare? Santorum makes a great case that it is him.
I personally don’t know, but if a system can be created whereby sellers or owners of sites would not be mandated to police themselves, and all the consequences would fall upon the thief, I don’t have a big problem. Just as patents of inventions are protected, so should inventors of artistic property be. It’s a tough problem, that’s for sure. Bob
On Piracy
You see this is the genius a of free country and free market. The record companies tried to make it impossible to get content. Kept the price high (and unreasonably so). Piracy (a market force) pushed them to bring their content down to a reasonable price and piracy of music is less prevalent. The landscape has changed and now more artists have more control of what they produce and more potential to get attention and get paid. Also I know the music industry - I can tell you for a fact that the majority of artists barely saw a 1% return - if they even saw that. The industry had a stranglehold on content production and that was locked down via their distribution networks. Hence content producers rarely saw a dime.
Read this for an insiders look at the biz (warning - the language is extremely crude at times! But he actually does a breadown of a recording contract and how artists mostly get nothing)
http://www.negativland.com/albini.html
The whole media landscape is changing day by day. There is no “one size fits all” solution. Content providers - who used to have total control of distribution are finding their distribution model collapsing - this is excellent for freedom! Remember when we only had 3 networks to get content from - and they all pushed the progressive agenda? In fact it is an interesting point that there is a relation to our loss of freedom to that consolidation and control of news starting with radio networks at the beginning of the 20th century.
The dinosaur media is desperately making one last attempt to control content so they can shut down places like freerepublic if it doesn’t fit the government propaganda agenda. Leahy, Reid and sadly, Lamar Smith are paid for stooges in this game.
The free internet has helped break the shackles of centralized information, publishing conglomerates, etc.. Locking it all down again will be the progressives dream come true. I suggest we not be useful idiots for the progressive agenda.
“What a delusional statement. I have studied Santorum. He has the spirit and beliefs that are the polar opposites of our Founders.”
So the Founders were Paulbots?
“Our Founders had an instinctive and outspoken hostility towards anything but a “severely limited” government”
Ok - but let’s look at the things that they did say the feds could do. That list is evidence that while they believed in limited government, they were by no means libertarians. There’s a big difference. They believed that it was the obligation of the state to serve the people.
“Rick is a pure-breed Statist that would use the power of the State to forcibly bend the individual to be subservient to “his” view of the State.”
And what is his vision. You keep saying that his vision is bad, without actually quoting any facts other than your own opinion. I’m seeing - opinion, opinion, opinion, opinion.
Where’s the beef, sir?
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