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To: Tempest
Karl Rove himself conducted an interview on CNN (?) Which I saw in which he stated that the biggest mistake of the Bush presidency was the failure to contest the lie, "Bush lied people died."

You are looking at the historical legacy of the Bush presidency and in this respect you might well be right. Bush himself thought that would be so and that is why he instructed Karl Rove not to go to war on the issue because the administration wanted emphasis put elsewhere. Rove thought that the administration never fully recovered from this slander. The elections of 2006 and 2008 seem to bear him out.

The point and relevance to the Sarah Palin candidacy is that it does not matter how history views her, it matters how 50% plus one of the electorate view her on election day. As of today her polls are not robust. ( See Real Clear Politics cited in the previous post of mine in this thread.)

She's had 3 years to correct the impression generated by Katie Couric and Tina Fey and she has not done so. She has not entered the fray to prove that she could do so. In fact, she has withdrawn from the fray and from elected office.

For the record here is my assessment of Sarah Palin made before, repeat before, the 2008 election:

"You know I have spent considerable time in Alaska and much of it in Wasilla. I can well understand how somebody with Sarah Palin's personality and energy could rise to become governor of that state by virtue of her merit. In Alaska, at least in the Wasilla area, everybody knows everybody else and you better be a standup guy. You can be as eccentric as an out- house rat, but you better be a straight shooter and you better not put on no airs.

These down-home virtues are what is needed but not what is prized in Washington. I believe Sarah Palin is up against two psychological forces which she must overcome.

The first is a phenomenon applied to all Republican candidates that I can remember since Eisenhower. I can remember being told quite earnestly that the man who commanded the biggest, most complicated, and most successful amphibious operation in history was really quite stupid. Every succeeding Republican president since Eisenhower (excepting Nixon who was evil) was stupid. This calumny is tried on against every Republican candidate who comes along. We saw what happened to Dan Quayle. Can you recall how stupid Ronald Reagan was? Bedtime for Bozo? George Bush Sr. was out of touch and stupid, although his wife was conceded to be house smart in a grandmotherly sort of way. We all know her son is a moron. Sarah Palin, like Dan Quayle, was left out there exposed, unprepared and unsupported and no one should be surprised that the result was the same. So when Palin drops her gs and says "aw shucks," that is all the Eastern establishment needed to hear to match up the person with the holes in the template.

Of course, President Kennedy was in near genius who sped read at an amazing clip. We found out later that this was a lie and that his Pulitzer prize-winning book was ghostwritten. We now know that he must have been in a thick drug-induced cloud for much of his tenure in the Oval Office. Do you remember being told how intuitive Bill Clinton was and how he could summarize an expert's presentation better than the expert? Al Gore was a genius who was too good for the schools he flunked out of. And Barak Obama, well one can only express astonishment that his coming was not announced by John the Baptist.

And this messianic allusion brings me to the main problem which Sarah Palin confronts in structuring her image. It is the Billy Budd effect. If you recall your Melville, you will know that Billy Budd was a figure of good whose very presence antagonized the first mate who persecuted Billy Budd unmercifully. The mate was driven to do this unconsciously because the mate was a figure of evil. The mate had his demons. So it is with the left in America today, they are driven to a visceral hatred of Sarah Palin because she is the 21st century figure of Billy Budd. Sarah Palin committed an unforgivable affront, she knowingly carried a Mongoloid to term. This cannot be forgiven. This is the ultimate reproach to the entire belief system of the left. Sarah Palin need not even open her mouth and she is hated with a cold and unremitting fury.

This is why I said that the left hates Sarah Palin not for what she says or how she appears on television but for who she is. The left must react as evil always reacts in the presence of good. Like the second mate, they must persecute Sarah Palin and they do not even know why.

But Sarah Palin ought to know why if she is going to be able to cope with a brick bats that will come her way. She must know that she can never charm these people. The more she tries the more they will hate her. She must focus on her target, the conservative base which she will keep so long as she is faithful and the independent middle which is persuadable if she can appear to be a normal and a wholesome person.

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Further for the record, my opinion of her character has not varied. I speak only as an armchair pundit about her electability, not her virtues.


96 posted on 08/21/2011 7:12:47 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
So I gather two main points from your post every Republican since Eisenhower is portrayed as stupid. (This is true)

Sarah Palin needs to overcome this portrayal.

Well this is not an insurmountable feat. Since I suppose if it were, Eisenhower and every Republican candidate since him would have never been elected then... If the vast majority of voters bought into this garbage.

99 posted on 08/21/2011 7:22:28 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: nathanbedford
"I speak only as an armchair pundit about her electability, not her virtues."

Let's keep in mind that "electability" is a purely subjective term. It is manipulated by the powers that be and the whims of people. It is NOT an absolute.

"Virtue", on the other hand is a concrete value. Something we can really discern, measure, and thus believe in. If I had to chose one or the other to base an election on.... I'll go with VIRTUE.

101 posted on 08/21/2011 7:29:05 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: nathanbedford
So I gather two main points from your post every Republican since Eisenhower is portrayed as stupid. (This is true)

Sarah Palin needs to overcome this portrayal.

Well this is not an insurmountable feat. Since I suppose if it were, Eisenhower and every Republican candidate since him would have never been elected then... If the vast majority of voters bought into this garbage.

109 posted on 08/21/2011 7:55:16 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: nathanbedford
But Sarah Palin ought to know why if she is going to be able to cope with a brick bats that will come her way. She must know that she can never charm these people. The more she tries the more they will hate her. She must focus on her target, the conservative base which she will keep so long as she is faithful and the independent middle which is persuadable if she can appear to be a normal and a wholesome person.

She's already doing that...and more.

Here's a bit of inside baseball for you.

At the Iowa State Fair, Palin stood for over an hour answering reporters' questions earnestly and individually until they were dried up. Then she went for awhile longer. She then sent an aide to buy corn dogs for the press.

In the meantime Bachmann showed up late and flustered; and a reporter (Don Lemon from CNN) claims he was elbowed / shoved / whatever by one of Bachmann's entourage, might even have been her husband.

And Bachmann ended up being photographed in a compromising position while eating a corn dog:

Granted, if Palin did that, she'd win in a landslide due to the "fans of the hot librarian girl" vote. But that's beside the point.

Palin is exerting incredible charm and discipline, and it's paying off.

And one other thing in this regard.

I had the chance to attend part of the Right Online conference in Minneapolis recently (with Andrew Breitbart, and several others attending such as Michelle Malkin, Erick Erickson, and candidates including T-Paw, Bachmann, and Cain.

One of the branch-out sessions was a panel on how to start blogging hosted in part by Robert Stacy McCain (a href="http://www.theothermccain.com/">The Other McCain. He had started out as a conventional journalist, and pointed out that one of the best things you can do for the press, if you want a fair shake, is to make sure you don't waste their time (they want a story with a hook they can use, don't make them work for it); make sure they are fed (he recommended a separated food table for the press); and possibly, give them alcohol.

Sarah did two out of the three: and I think it is making a difference.

Cheers!

190 posted on 08/21/2011 7:35:55 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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