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President Trump: What would he be like?
Enter Stage Right ^ | April 25, 2011 | Daniel M. Ryan

Posted on 04/24/2011 8:49:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Although he has not announced his candidacy, Donald Trump is being treated as if he had. In fact, he's already a serious contender for the Republican Party nomination and the Presidency itself if nominated. I'm under no illusions as to the difficulties Candidate Trump will face in the months ahead should he go through with it. Mr. Trump has already been exposed as a former liberal, and comparisons of him to Ronald Reagan (himself a former liberal) seem stretched. President Reagan first made his national mark as a conservative with "A Time For Choosing." That speech was made back in 1964. At the time he made it, he had been building up his conservative stand for about ten years.

Mr. Trump's Damascus conversion is recent. Consequently, it's easy to knock him as an opportunist: to say that he just smells votes and is adjusting his tune to get them. The kernel of truth in that claim ties in with his undoubted talent as an entrepreneur. Yes, Donald Trump shifted to a conservative stance and "Mr. Birther" as a businessman.

In a nutshell, for what it's worth, Mr. Trump has a success secret that's enabled him to make a huge amount of money in the luxury condo business. I don't know if he got it from his father, or whether he discovered it himself, but it goes something like this: "There's what people say they want, and there's what they really want. People are sometimes ashamed of what they really want, even though they shouldn't be. Find a way to break through the shame, and deliver what they really want, and you'll be rich." This success maxim is precisely what Mr. Trump effected with luxury condominiums. When he was starting out in high-end real estate, luxury condos and co-ops were old-fashioned-tasteful and understated. Rather than advertising or displaying the owners' wealth, they tended to hide it. Donald Trump built condos that showed wealth. He managed to break through the stigma of such condos being "slick" or "ostentatious." In so doing, he built and sold what his customers really wanted but ashamed to ask for explicitly.

He doing so took a difficult kind of daring: the art of being shameless without being tasteless. There are few entrepreneurs who can walk that tight-wire. One of them, ironically enough, is Hugh Hefner. Had Mr. Hefner been no more than Larry Flynt, he would have been drummed out of business by the law amidst the mocking sound of popular applause. Had Donald Trump gone gaudy, he would have been a late-'70s epiphenomenon like Studio 54; nothing more. By being tasteful, he avoided that fate and stayed on the wire.

With regard to his championing the birther issue, Mr. Trump is indeed up to his old tricks. He managed to discern a lot of underground support for the issue that didn't die. He also saw the stigma attached to people like Orly Taitz who shouldered the burden of pursuing what the mainstream media dismissed as a patent falsehood. He saw the consequent opportunity in the birther controversy, and he took it. As a result, he's now a serious contender for the Presidency.

Not just because of his pro-birther stance; far from it. His championing of protective tariffs on goods imported from mainland China shows the same flair. Give 'em what they really want, but don't dirty your hands while doing so; make sure your hands and your brand stay clean. With respect to Chinese trade policy, he's using the currency-manipulation claim to stay clean.

President Businessman

Mr. Trump, of course, has other business talents more easily noticed. He and his many supporters hold them up as strengths. One obvious trait is his toughness. I'm sure he sized up the mainland Chinese rulership as people who'll bend if they're confronted firmly and toughly.

Another is his outspokenness; for it, he's held up as brave. In fact, his populist frankness is precisely the root of his populist popularity. Again, he smells his kind of opportunity: people widely dislike mainstream politicians, but vote for them anyway. They do so because of the stigma attached to voting for people who don't live up to the Washington standard of professionalism. Witness the fate of Sarah Palin.

On the darker side of his success traits, there's his opportunism with regard to legalities. His companies have been no strangers to Chapter 11 and the bankruptcy courts. He has tried to use eminent domain to push out a recalcitrant landowner when he wanted to put a new parking lot beside one of his casinos.

That side to him is ancillary as a businessman, as it's subordinate to giving his customers what they really want. He can point to a product, like a casino, a golf course or a stunning building full of luxurious condominiums, that makes it all worthwhile. The trouble is, that side is not ancillary to a President. The main job of the President of the United States is to head up the executive branch of the United States government. Observing legalities is at the heart of the job.

I'm sure Mr. Trump sees it as being the nation's CEO. It actually isn't, because Congress makes the laws, but someone of his calibre will be tempted to see Congress as his subordinates. Given his thin-skinedness, President Trump would likely engage in at least one feud with Congress: the most probable co-feuder would be the Democrat who most jealously guards the legislative branch's rights. Should Mr. Trump become President, watch for filibusters of the legislation he sends over. More to the point, watch for him using grey areas of the Constitution to his advantage. He will not be a strict constructionist. In the business world, a strict constructionist is a cost-plus Quaker type who had little taste for negotiating.

In foreign policy, his thin skin is likely to be his undoing. Negotiations revolve around stances, which are modified if need be as the negotiation continues. In the world of government, this practice translates into "his word's no good" or "he's blustering." Cagey diplomats and shrewd foreign ministers will treat his demands and pronouncements as little more than negotiating ploys or venting. It's almost a certainly that the high officials of the People's Republic of China will treat his tariff policy as a chip on the bargaining table, at most. Needless to say, it has to get though Congress first.

His nationalistic talk about Middle East oil will be treated in two ways. When the chips are down, the only way to enforce his "oil for the Americans" stance is all-out war. Publicly, he and Americans will be excoriated as imperialists and warmongers. Privately, he'll be sized up as a blusterer. He'll find out quickly that a sovereign Middle East government is not the same thing as a municipality. When heads of foreign governments refer to "mere businessmen," they mean it.

He'll likely be baited on the world stage. Foreigners doing so would be good for his popularity with the voters, and it would generate patriotic feuds, but it won't lead to much done unless he plays by the rules. He'll be sized up as George Bush without the humility.

Unless he does an about-face and becomes another Washington insider, it's unlikely he'll accomplish anything of significance in the foreign-policy arena - unless he decides to press more Yankee tax dollars into foreign hands. He'll have to bend on his more nationalistic goals unless he goes unilateralist. The President of the United States has no standing in foreign governance. It's not that hard for a foreign minister or head of government to say: "then 'we' won't be doing anything at all" and sticking to it. Instead of the tough negotiators Mr. Trump expects to face, he'll face the foreign answer to tough judges. A lot of the tricks used by the striped-pants boys take that lack of standing into account and work around it.

He may succeed in getting some of his domestic plan though Congress even though his techniques don't work on the suspicious, cagey and independent-minded. His tariff plan will not be one of those successes. He putting it to Congress will reveal how many Yankee dollars are coined with cheap Chinese goods, and how many Yankee jobs currently depend on "China Inc." doing its thing. It's too easy for free traders to run an ad that says: "Donald Trump To Wal-Mart Employees: 'You're Fired.'"

Any attempt on his part to slash government spending, or to abolish the Department of Education, will reveal how many Yankee vested interests in government spending there are. Again, there'll be lots of opportunity for him to show his populism with headline-grabbing speeches and feuds. The wheels of publicity will turn 'round and 'round for him; that's for sure. But, given his character and how his weak points will be used, it's not likely that his publicity genius will translate into much of substance. Unless, of course, he bends with the Washington wind and becomes another insider.

Sad to say, the political world – more so the geopolitical world - has a completely different standard of toughness; it's one that Mr. Trump has never faced. At its core, whether rightly or wrongly, is disdain for money. Only that disdain gave President Roosevelt, whether rightly or wrongly, the toughness to lambaste "the malefactors of great wealth."


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; State and Local; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: certifigate; china; obama; trump
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To: Prokopton

Agreed Prokopton. I will, though, have to hear the transcript on Rush when Trump defends his donation to Rahm-the Fish. Does anyone here have a sense where Rush is on Trump ? I’m sure they’re friends and all and I know Rush doesn’t endorse before the general but...maybe he’ll change his mind after who we got for ‘08. I still think he could have changed that one...


61 posted on 04/25/2011 1:03:30 AM PDT by R.I.chopper
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To: GeronL

Have you built anything in Vegas or Chicago? It’s called the price of doing business.

Same rationalization all of the Palin backers gave for her campaigning for Senator McCain. What’s the difference?


62 posted on 04/25/2011 1:42:50 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: Brett66

Bush was a pragmatist in the Nixon sense.


63 posted on 04/25/2011 1:44:09 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: Reagan Man

No, they’ll continue until he gets the nomination and then he’ll be the greatest thing since sliced bread on FR: as was the case with Bush and McCain.


64 posted on 04/25/2011 1:46:55 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: eyedigress

Asking nopardons not to get worked up is like asking AA not to mention alcohol.


65 posted on 04/25/2011 1:49:20 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: nopardons

“Trump did NOT “grow up in the school of hard knocks” at all; he grew up in the lap of luxury and was lucky that his father”

That’s what you’re riding on isn’t it?


66 posted on 04/25/2011 1:50:25 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: MrEdd

With all due respect, you sound like a nutjob.


67 posted on 04/25/2011 1:52:32 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: JLS

That’s funny, because right now the media is attacking Trump when they were kissing McCain’s ass in 2007.


68 posted on 04/25/2011 1:54:01 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: Reagan Man

“Conservatives also do not find the cult of personality rewarding. We do find it toxic.”

LMAO... Apparently, you were asleep at the computer from 2000 - 2008 and ever since Palin’s VP nomination.


69 posted on 04/25/2011 1:55:56 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: BillyBoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xbwk2PVhT0


70 posted on 04/25/2011 1:58:09 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: montanajoe

I like West.


71 posted on 04/25/2011 3:07:36 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: montanajoe

Sadly, there are many stupid conservatives that have suddenly come out of the woodwork here on FR.


72 posted on 04/25/2011 3:10:47 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: FreeReign

Exactly right!


73 posted on 04/25/2011 3:14:06 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Probably way different than non-president Trump.


74 posted on 04/25/2011 3:20:56 AM PDT by stuartcr (The soul is the .cfg file for the body)
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To: BillyBoy
Trump's flair for the dramatic means nothing because he claims whoever is polling bad at that moment in time is "the worse in history"

No, he claims whoever is screwing up the Country at the time is the "worst" president.

75 posted on 04/25/2011 6:24:47 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump would be like any other politician, he would be reminded that he works for US, not himself anymore. He would do as we want, and if not, HE’S FIRED.

I am not sold completely that he is next president, but he is willing to tackle tough issues, or at least talk the talk, which right now, our other contenders are still either silent on or just finding their voice. If Palin/West came out swinging in the same vein, torpedoes be damned, I would be absolutely thrilled.

We need a president with the intestinal fortitude to lead us out of this mess and is not afraid to hurt the feelings of those who have made their careers of destroying this nation.


76 posted on 04/25/2011 9:04:37 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: streetpreacher

Hedonists always think that when they run into people who value honor and human life over the persuit of carnal pleasure.


77 posted on 04/25/2011 10:30:26 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: streetpreacher
No doubt about it. This forum has its Bushies and Palin supporters. I don't think conservatives considered Bush43 a personality cult. LOL Now that's funny. And when compared to McCain, Palin had her devoted fans.

If anything conservatives kept a watchful eye on Dubya throughout his first term. Yeah, we voted Bush over Kerry. But before 2005 was half over, Bush's big government Republicanism was in full swing and he was getting hit hard from the right. I know, cause I was hitting him quite often right here on this forum and catching hell for it.

78 posted on 04/25/2011 10:47:47 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: streetpreacher
I was just correcting egregious statements. And why did you leave out the other one I corrected, the fact that the U of C isn't an Ivy League college?

Just go away..........I refuse to be the whipping boy for your flagrant Trumpbot fantasies.

79 posted on 04/25/2011 12:24:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At first, I agreed with the article, but towards the end, it reeked of “only establishment insiders can accomplish anything, and don’t you dare mess with the Dept of Edjumacation.”


80 posted on 04/25/2011 12:41:24 PM PDT by RockinRight (Maybe Trump's a stalking horse for Palin...)
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