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The Danger of Donald Trump (Compares him to Charlie Sheen and PM Silvio Berlusconi)
The New York Times ^ | April 21, 2011 | Timothy Egan

Posted on 04/21/2011 7:37:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s easy to see why people think Donald Trump has become the Charlie Sheen of the Republican Party. Gluttons for attention, the two share a rare talent at self-promotion, self-delusion and self-immolation. And Sheen now proclaims himself a birther, in league with Trump’s crusade to promote a lie about President Obama that is also believed by nearly half of G.O.P voters.

But the more you watch Trump crash around the land, leaving shards of fabrication for the rest of us to sweep up, the more you realize who he’s really like: Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister who has served longer than any leader of his country since Mussolini goose-stepped over bell’Italia.

The surface matches are compelling. Hair plugs for Berlusconi, a pricey thatch of some sort for Trump. Berlusconi regularly insults women in public. Trump has also publically called at least one woman a “fat pig.” Berlusconi brought sexed-up game shows to Italian television. Trump has a silly “reality” show in which he plays a business mogul. Berlusconi, at 74, socializes with teenage girls. Just shy of his 60th birthday, the thrice-married Trump said that if then-24-year-old Ivanka Trump were not his daughter, “perhaps I’d be dating her.”

When I lived in New York, and later in Italy, I heard many people dismiss these men as a joke. They’re vulgarians — it’s all a sideshow of limos and pouty women with bee-sting lips. But an equally large segment of the population is strangely entranced by Trump and Berlusconi. If Trump is leading in some Republican polls, and Berlusconi still commands a large following despite being on trial for his latest sex scandal, what does it say about an enabling public?

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; trump
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Mr. Trump was born in 1946. I'm not a math wizard, but does that sound like he's "just shy of his 60th birthday" to you? Did the Times fire all of their editors?
1 posted on 04/21/2011 7:37:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yup....typical liberal playbook. If the racist card doesn’t stick...pain them as crazy.


2 posted on 04/21/2011 7:42:33 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lie, Eh?


3 posted on 04/21/2011 7:42:56 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: FReepers
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4 posted on 04/21/2011 7:44:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They always tell us who they fear. Trump/Palin seems to be the end of their world.

They never even went after Reagan like this.


5 posted on 04/21/2011 7:45:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Blue Turtle

They are scared to death of Trump.


6 posted on 04/21/2011 7:49:40 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump must be saying the right things to generate this kind of heat. Keep it up!


7 posted on 04/21/2011 7:50:31 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The last Times reporter to attack Trump like this got nailed. I’m not sure why they published Trump’s reply, but they did. And it was a doozy.


8 posted on 04/21/2011 7:51:59 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for all of these interesting threads Vet.


9 posted on 04/21/2011 7:53:21 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Cicero

The Times has been attacking Trump for what, 25 years?


10 posted on 04/21/2011 7:53:55 PM PDT by RockinRight (Maybe Trump's a stalking horse for Palin...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Danger from Donald Trump” is to .....ISLAM, OPEC, and CHINA. .............All three our enemies.


11 posted on 04/21/2011 7:56:14 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: mowowie

I get a kick out of them, too. LOL


12 posted on 04/21/2011 7:56:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education. TR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least Trump fires back at them. Most of the GOP just lie there and say kick me again.


13 posted on 04/21/2011 8:04:19 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: TigerClaws

Krauthammer was on Hannity tonight and he said Donald called him on the phone today and they had quite a chat. He said they discussed point and counter point Trump’s positions and other things. He also said he was struck by Trumps courteousness and earnestness. He told Trump there was another article coming out tomorrow that was harsher on Trump than the last one and Trump took it with grace. But I got the distinct feeling that The Donald had a positive impact on Krauthammer and he had seemed to soften a little toward Trump. Kraut thinks Donald is really going to run.

On Greta tonight I thought Trump was a lot more focused and his points are crisper. We will see.


14 posted on 04/21/2011 8:08:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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It’s easy to see why people think Donald Trump has become the Charlie Sheen of the Republican Party.

I've never seen any news stories about Donald Trump going to the ER with a drug overdose.

15 posted on 04/21/2011 8:09:25 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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“Trump’s crusade to promote a lie about President Obama that is also believed by nearly half of G.O.P voters.”

Trump and half of all repub/conservatives are certifiably crazy because:

Obama has demonstrated he is a natural-born citizen per constitutional requirements. Wait, I guess not.

British subject, Indonesian adoptee? Foreign student? American naturalized citizen who posed as a foreign student for aid purposes? We’re all “birthers” even if we don’t suscribe to a neccessarily Kenyan birth. We’re just questioning his eligibility, whatever the ruse.


16 posted on 04/21/2011 8:15:21 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I’m not a huge Trump fan but he seems to be the only one addressing real issues: Obama’s BC, China running us over, us blowing billions on wars and not getting paid back for the effort, etc.

I don’t think any of the field can withstand the MSM heat other than Trump. Let’s see who shows up.


17 posted on 04/21/2011 8:19:03 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Paleo Conservative

That insult was not intended to refer to being like Sheen as regards drugs but being liable to say outrageous and crazy things and live in his own universe as the center.

He is perhaps the only one who has connected Sheen and Trump in any way however. He must be the Charlie Sheen of the New York Times.


18 posted on 04/21/2011 8:33:57 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: TigerClaws

Sarah is still standing after an unprecedented assault on her family, ideas, dignity and character. She is showing she can take it so far. But Trump is a street fighter and has been giving more crap than taking. The RAT media is starting to hate him as much as anyone though.


19 posted on 04/21/2011 8:36:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob

Yep. Trump is their new target. Heat will be turned up. They want him to drop the BC issue because they know it’s a knockout punch when it lands.


20 posted on 04/21/2011 8:39:47 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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