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The "Haves" and the "Have Nots" of the 2012 GOP presidential race
The Washington Post's The Fix ^ | January 11, 2011 | Chris Cillizza and Aaron Blake

Posted on 01/11/2011 9:00:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The 2012 Republican presidential race is a contest between the "haves" and the "have nots".

The "haves" boast high name identification scores and favorability ratings among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. The "have nots", well, don't.

The "haves" group includes four people: former Govs. Mitt Romney (Mass.), Sarah Palin (Alaska) and Mike Huckabee (Ark.) as well as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. The "have not" are everyone else. (Somewhere in between in Texas Rep. Ron Paul who is well known but not regarded as a serious threat for the nomination.)

This chart from Gallup captures the bifurcation of the GOP field nicely.

Almost every presidential nominating fight -- regardless of party -- has a candidate (or maybe even two) who are well-known commodities to primary voters.

Typically, as we saw in 2008 Democratic presidential fight, initial name recognition and favorability numbers, while an advantage, are not conclusive. Early states like Iowa and New Hampshire have outsized influence in the process and victories in one or both can fundamentally re-align national polling in a matter of days.

What's different about this field -- and 538's Nate Silver has expertly made this case -- is that there are four potential candidates who are well known and well liked by the Republican primary electorate, meaning that if one (or even several) of the "haves" slip it's likely that one of the other four will benefit rather than one of the "have nots".

True enough. But, there are -- as always -- a few complicating factors.

First, and most importantly, it remains to be seen whether all of the four "haves" actually run. Romney is a certain candidate and Gingrich seems likely to run. Huckabee and Palin are far more difficult to predict as both have enjoyed significant financial success....

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; huckabee; palin; romney

1 posted on 01/11/2011 9:00:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What's different about this field -- and 538's Nate Silver has expertly made this case -- is that there are four potential candidates who are well known and well liked by the Republican primary electorate

There is probably limited awareness among the base of Newt's marital history.

I just cant see the GOP nominating a candidate who is twice divorced and now married to his third wife.

2 posted on 01/11/2011 9:04:43 PM PST by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To all those left of the right-most name, I say:


3 posted on 01/11/2011 9:09:51 PM PST by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gingrich is dead meat as he has way too much baggage and he’s almost 20 years beyond his best if used by date. Outside of Palin and Pence (who I don’t think is gonna run)there’s really no one on that list I’m excited about with the possible exception of Thune, and I don’t know all that much about him at this point.

I’m guessing a darkhorse will surprise but I have no idea who it could be.


4 posted on 01/11/2011 9:22:39 PM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: freespirited

Reagan was divorced once.


5 posted on 01/11/2011 9:32:43 PM PST by TXConservative25
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To: pissant

Rep.Bachmann isn’t on this chart.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 9:37:28 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Or Jim DeMint

Last time out it was Rudy McRomney as the haves. And that got us Rudy McRomney who Obama beat like a rented mule.


7 posted on 01/11/2011 10:00:25 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Huckster.

I will not vote for Gingrich at all. I am not even sure I could hold my nose for Huckster. These are depressing names right there. Gingrich can't even take his marriage vows seriously. And before people start bashing me about the fact that Ronald Reagan was divorced. These two comparisons are not even remotely the same. Ronald Reagan and Jane Wyman were divorce millions of years prior to him even getting into politics. Ronald Reagan did not divorce his wife on Jane's death bed. Ronald Reagan and Jane Wyman did not have an acrimonious divorce and even stayed “friendly” for the rest of their lives. She did not speak nasty about Ronald at all even though the media were on her constantly hoping she would bash him so that the American people would turn on him. So to compare the creepy Gingrich with Ronald Reagan is insulting.

8 posted on 01/11/2011 10:30:23 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: TXConservative25

Reagan was divorced once.

I knew someone would bash poor President Reagan so this was written specifically for you:

will not vote for Gingrich at all. I am not even sure I could hold my nose for Huckster. These are depressing names right there. Gingrich can’t even take his marriage vows seriously. And before people start bashing me about the fact that Ronald Reagan was divorced. These two comparisons are not even remotely the same. Ronald Reagan and Jane Wyman were divorce millions of years prior to him even getting into politics. Ronald Reagan did not divorce his wife on Jane’s death bed. Ronald Reagan and Jane Wyman did not have an acrimonious divorce and even stayed “friendly” for the rest of their lives. She did not speak nasty about Ronald at all even though the media were on her constantly hoping she would bash him so that the American people would turn on him. So to compare the creepy Gingrich with Ronald Reagan is insulting.


9 posted on 01/11/2011 10:32:52 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: freespirited

I really don’t care about Newt’s marital history, as that has nothing to do with politics. He’s mealy-mouthed and seems to switch views on various topics at the drop of a hat. He needs to stick to writing books about history and giving his speeches.

Huckabee is nothing but a tent revival preacher and a snake oil salesman. His tenure as Gov in Arkansas involved big tax increases. He needs to stick to his lucrative TV show and guest shots on other shows on FNC. The people in those crazy, outdated Iowa caucuses seem to like him but I don’t believe Conservatives who do a little research into his track record will vote for him.


10 posted on 01/11/2011 10:33:42 PM PST by octex
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To: TXConservative25
Reagan was divorced once.

Gingrich is no Reagan.

Aside from the MULTIPLE divorces, he spent too much time playing kissy face with Pelosi.

If you want a RINO, go to an F'n zoo!

11 posted on 01/11/2011 10:36:45 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AI use to subscribe to the Washington Post Weekly.
Then two weeks in a row they carried about 10 page inserts extolling the virtues of Saudi Arabia.
I canceled my subscription.
Cause there ar3e NO redeeming qualities where it comes to Saudi Arabia.
It was then I came to comprehend that the Post is full of lies as they report to support thier preconceived liberal horse crap ideas.


12 posted on 01/12/2011 3:09:50 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Backstabber Mitt Romney (MA,CA,NH,UT,MI, but mainly Mexico)
and Huckabee are not "Haves". See the Real Deal:

Click here for HARRY info

13 posted on 01/12/2011 3:54:53 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thune and Pawlty as V.P. in 2012

The next race will be won in the midwest. We must carry OH,IN,MO,WI or IA and at least be competitive in MI and MN-Pawlty’s home state. Although Thune is from SD, it is close to being in midwest.


14 posted on 01/12/2011 6:13:19 AM PST by magnificant bastard
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To: napscoordinator

If it were not for Gingrich, the House would be in Democratic control 60 years running by now.

I was not bashing Reagan, just making a point.


15 posted on 01/12/2011 9:28:43 AM PST by TXConservative25
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