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I just don't see 'How Palin Could Win' (Another Jourbalist Obot sounds off)
The Washington Post ^ | February 10, 2010 | Jonathan Capehart

Posted on 02/10/2010 3:08:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin's raw talent is not unappreciated by me. What I don't get, however, is this undying belief that she could become president of the United States. The latest comes from Matt Lattimer at the Daily Beast. I won't fine-tooth "How Palin Could Win," except for Lattimer's last assertion.

The former speechwriter to President George W. Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld advises Palin to "remember political history." He continues,

"No actor can be elected president." "No First Lady can win a Senate seat in a state where she never lived." "No one-term senator can defeat Hillary Clinton." There are plenty more opportunities to prove those in the know wrong.

Yes, Ronald Reagan was an actor in the early days. But he served two terms as governor of California (1967 to 1975). Full terms, I might add. And he ran twice unsuccessfully for the Republican presidential nomination in 1968 and 1976 before he snagged it and the White House in 1980.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2012; obama; palin; palin2012; sarahpalin
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To: reasonisfaith
Let’s examine her entire political career in general, during which she has consistently refused—despite the daily temptations—to give in to corruption, and always put the interests of her people before anything else political.

But alas, her critics don't want to do that.
See, this is perhaps the biggest obstacle that Governor Palin needs to overcome. She needs to kill that nonsense that she's a quitter. Her supporters know she's not, we all know she was basically railroaded out of office by Rahm orders to Alaska Dems not to work with her. Unfortunately, there are some who are still willing to take a toke from the crack pipe and believe the MSM/leftist lies that she up and quit because she couldn't hack it.

And the best way for Palin to do this is to start cutting some short, 5-min YouTube videos highlighting her career, her fight against corruption, and her accomplishments, and keep pounding this in. She actually governed as a pragmatic conservative whose version of reaching across the aisle didn't mean bending over McCain style. She got things done and kept her conservatism in tact, which will win over independents and so-called moderates if she chooses to run.

81 posted on 02/10/2010 7:14:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Your wallet: Where Democrats want to drill)
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To: OldDeckHand
That's fine. You may be right about the polls, that was not the way I remembered it. My unclear comment to you was to say I couldn't get a link to look at the polls.

My impression of the 3 debates was that Obama looked smarter and better than McCain, and he came off as an oddity as well as old. McCain was a horrible debater.

For the veep debate, with all the hype about Biden, I thought he was sophomoric, very bad with the facts (and he was), and quite overblown as a debater. She may not have rocked the world, but she held her own against the one who was supposedly steeped in foreign policy.

My take. No need to be upset here.

82 posted on 02/10/2010 7:15:59 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: OldDeckHand
The GOP has PLENTY of capable and competent conservative candidates that can win that aren't burdened by the same baggage that plagues Palin.

If they don't have the conservative base behind them, they ain't winning dog catcher.

Your LSD-induced version of political reality simply does not compute.

Besides, the electorate is not going to elect legislators again, so that disqualifies Pence & DeMint. They're going to look for an outsider, a Governor...and the base ain't going for Romney or a former insider like Barbour.

83 posted on 02/10/2010 7:18:27 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Your wallet: Where Democrats want to drill)
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To: Clyde5445
And before you spout off about Demint being a legislator he has run his own business.

The electorate is going to demand an outsider, someone who is/was an executive of a state.

DeMint's business experience is irrelevant. He's a Senator and prior to that he served in the House. Still has the stigma of Washington attached to him. He'd be a helluva VP choice, however.

84 posted on 02/10/2010 7:24:10 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Your wallet: Where Democrats want to drill)
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To: OldDeckHand

She has more experience as a debater? Where has she gained this experience?

There hasn’t been a Presidential debate in at least 2 decades. Reagan won his with “there you go again”.


85 posted on 02/10/2010 7:37:52 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The next step in the “process” will be for a narrative that explains the real reason for the housing bubble and the corruption with Fanny and Freddie. No body who was in Congress when Bush attempted to pull in Mae and Mac and who didn't speak out against the corruption don't have the moral authority to deliver that narrative. IMO, that narrows the field considerably and as you said points to a true outsider/reformer.
86 posted on 02/10/2010 7:42:04 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"If they don't have the conservative base behind them, they ain't winning dog catcher. "

You're pretending that the primaries happen in some kind of vacuum. Do you think that Jim DeMint wouldn't have the support of conservatives - social conservative, fiscal conservatives and foreign policy conservatives - should he win the nomination?

Too many people are under this misconception that only Palin can beat Barack Obama because only Palin generates the same kind of buzz. It's ridiculous.

Dick Nixon won two elections - in landslides - and he couldn't draw a crowd of Eskimos to a space heater.

Presidential elections to the middle third of the country - the politically disinterested part of the country - aren't about policies, but about personalities and about the perceived competence of the candidate. It's a beauty contest with a touch of high school popularity contest with a hint of honor roll. Palin's baggage will haunt her in the general election. She'll get painted as an incompetent quitter, and it will stick.

Thune, DeMint, Barbour and Pence are all earnest, serious men who won't get painted as idiots. Why? Because they're all deeply experienced with handling the national media, unlike Palin, who is still struggling with her media appearances, even with friendly journalists.

So long as they say the right things, and unemployment is about 8%, anyone of them can beat Obama - Palin, I'm not so sure.

87 posted on 02/10/2010 7:44:47 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
Do you see her as an incompetent quitter?
88 posted on 02/10/2010 7:47:44 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: OldDeckHand
Thune, DeMint, Barbour and Pence are all earnest, serious men who won't get painted as idiots.

Do you see Palin as an idiot? You must know the MSM and Dems will to some degree paint them as something unflattering. For starters, Barbour will be a Southern racist.

89 posted on 02/10/2010 7:51:32 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: OldDeckHand

If you had the choice between Obama and Palin, what would it be?


90 posted on 02/10/2010 7:53:11 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"Do you see her as an incompetent quitter? "

It doesn't matter how I see her, or how you see her. What matters is how the American public - and especially the moderate and independent voters see her.

Because of party ID shortcomings with the Republicans, a Republican party nominee must win at least 60% of the independents to have a chance at victory.

She has made herself an easy target, and subsequently put herself at some peril with those non-affiliated voters, with her resignation and this stigma that continues to plague her about her intellect. She's polarizing, just like Hilary Clinton. Sure, people love, but an equal number of people really, really hate her. A lessor known candidate who has yet generated that level of vitriol, would stand a much easier chance in the general election.

91 posted on 02/10/2010 7:54:38 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"If you had the choice between Obama and Palin, what would it be?"

Good grief son, don't bother me with idiotic questions.

92 posted on 02/10/2010 7:55:52 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Is she more or less polarizing than President Obamba?


93 posted on 02/10/2010 7:59:08 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: OldDeckHand

Troll.


94 posted on 02/10/2010 8:01:19 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: OldDeckHand
Not an idiotic question presuming she were to get the Republican nomination. Your argument has been she can't win a general election, not that she can't win the nomination.

By the way, why do you hate women?

95 posted on 02/10/2010 8:03:34 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"Is she more or less polarizing than President Obamba?"

The same. But, Obama is the incumbent and therefor enjoys the incumbent's advantage. In the last 70 years, only two Presidents who have stood for reelection haven't been reelected - Carter and GW Bush.

Given the choice between the polarizing known quantity, and the polarizing unknown quantity, the electorate usually goes with the former and not the latter?.

96 posted on 02/10/2010 8:04:03 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Idiot. By the way, when did you stop molesting young boys?


97 posted on 02/10/2010 8:04:51 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
See posts 88 forward. Looks like a troll pretending to engage in meaningful discussion.
98 posted on 02/10/2010 8:05:58 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"See posts 88 forward. Looks like a troll pretending to engage in meaningful discussion."

Goodness, you are a vile little girl. Someone dares to question the political bona fides of your sycophantic hero, and you immediately start with the name calling. It's pathetic, but reflective of your personality. Get some help.

99 posted on 02/10/2010 8:09:01 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: caver
There are a boatload of Republicans and Conservatives that think that Palin cannot win. Not my opinion, just stating fact...

There are a boatload of Republicans and Conservatives who couldn't find a pig in a bath tub.

Just stating fact...

100 posted on 02/10/2010 8:27:28 PM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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