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A Person Who Has Her Facts Straight About Health Care
Cutting Through The Fog ^ | November 8, 2009 | Cranky George

Posted on 11/08/2009 11:08:53 PM PST by Petro

An excellent, straightforward, and easy to understand explanation of what we can expect our lives to be like under the new Health Care Reform plan H.R.3962.

(Excerpt) Read more at cuttingthroughthefog.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: healthcare; hr3962; insurance; mccaughey
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1 posted on 11/08/2009 11:08:56 PM PST by Petro
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2 posted on 11/08/2009 11:22:25 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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What the Pelosi Health-Care Bill Really Says by Betsy McCaughey (WSJ)
3 posted on 11/08/2009 11:25:59 PM PST by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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4 posted on 11/08/2009 11:28:23 PM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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5 posted on 11/08/2009 11:30:06 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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6 posted on 11/09/2009 12:10:36 AM PST by Cedar
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I sure hope the Senators still considering their positions are getting full reports on the 118 new bureaucracies the House bill would create. Some might improve health care, though I doubt it. Most will move more power into the White House, and many will have no effect or detrimental effects on health care. They are the best argument I’ve seen for “government by assassination,” and no, I still don’t advocate “voting” by that method. Almost, but not nearly.


7 posted on 11/09/2009 12:32:36 AM PST by JohnQ1 (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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Just a few of the really scary things I see in the summary:

Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay for it. That's like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.No way!

Sec. 303 (pp. 167-168) makes it clear that, although the "qualified plan" is not yet designed, it will be of the "one size fits all" variety. The bill claims to offer choice—basic, enhanced and premium levels. But the benefits are the same, only the co-pays and deductibles differ.Not sure what this means.

Sec. 399V (p. 1422) provides for grants to community "entities" with no required qualifications except having "documented community activity and experience with community healthcare workers" to "educate, guide, and provide experiential learning opportunities" aimed at drug abuse, poor nutrition, smoking and obesity. "Each community health worker program receiving funds under the grant will provide services in the cultural context most appropriate for the individual served by the program.Can you say ACORN and SEIU? "Community health worker" = union member!

These programs will "enhance the capacity of individuals to utilize health services and health related social services under Federal, State and local programs by assisting individuals in establishing eligibility . . . and in receiving services and other benefits" including transportation and translation services.Just imagine what we will pay these SEIU members to provide "transportation and translating services"!

Sec. 222 (p. 617) provides reimbursement for culturally and linguistically appropriate services. This program will train health-care workers to inform Medicare beneficiaries of their "right" to have an interpreter at all times and with no co-pays for language services.Some organization, like ACORN, will get funds for "training" doctors and nurses how to inform patients about their right to an interpreter.

Secs. 2521 and 2533 (pp. 1379 and 1437)establishes racial and ethnic preferences in awarding grants for training nurses and creating secondary-school health science programs. For example, grants for nursing schools should "give preference to programs that provide for improving the diversity of new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population." And secondary-school grants should go to schools "graduating students from disadvantaged backgrounds including racial and ethnic minorities."Ugh!

Sec. 1302 (pp. 672-692) moves Medicare from a fee-for-service payment system, in which patients choose which doctors to see and doctors are paid for each service they provide, toward what's called a "medical home." The medical home is this decade's version of HMO-restrictions on care. A primary-care provider manages access to costly specialists and diagnostic tests for a flat monthly fee. The bill specifies that patients may have to settle for a nurse practitioner rather than a physician as the primary-care provider.So, Medicare becomes an HMO and nurse practioners replace the family doctors. A few years ago, Florida tried to make Medicaid an HMO and the recipients screamed bloody murder!

What a load of Socialist garbage!!!

8 posted on 11/09/2009 12:52:57 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (no more "till death do us part" public workers!)
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....full reports on the 118 new bureaucracies the House bill would create.

Have you seen any reports of what it is going to cost just to administer this annually? Imagine all the thousands of government workers they will have to hire! The annual administrative costs ARE NOT IN THE COST ESTIMATE FROM THE CBO!

9 posted on 11/09/2009 12:56:29 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (no more "till death do us part" public workers!)
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10 posted on 11/09/2009 2:07:43 AM PST by lysie (A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right.T.Paine)
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Round people up and lock them up. It is for their own good. /sarcasm


11 posted on 11/09/2009 2:20:45 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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Imagine all the thousands of government workers they will have to hire!

That's 100s of 1000s and they will be hired as soon as this thing becomes law so that the incoming Republican majorities in Congress 2010 will be faced with having to disemploy those hundreds of thousands if they repeal. It is Insurance for the law.

12 posted on 11/09/2009 2:56:25 AM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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It doesn’t come into effect until 2013. But it is the promise of all these bureaucracies and jobs that will re-elect the dude in 2012, he thinks.


13 posted on 11/09/2009 3:29:35 AM PST by browniexyz
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What Plan will the Bureaucrats that administer this plan for the federal govt. be on?


14 posted on 11/09/2009 4:01:28 AM PST by ballplayer
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Have you seen any reports of what it is going to cost just to administer this annually? Imagine all the thousands of government workers they will have to hire! The annual administrative costs ARE NOT IN THE COST ESTIMATE FROM THE CBO!

I have ask that same question of my senator (D) and congressperson (R) here in NC, and the only answer I received from either was a form letter that basically said " Thanks for contacting us".

15 posted on 11/09/2009 4:25:30 AM PST by dearolddad
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It doesn’t come into effect until 2013. But it is the promise of all these bureaucracies and jobs that will re-elect the dude in 2012, he thinks.

And....All of the thousands new hires will be SEIU members.

16 posted on 11/09/2009 4:29:03 AM PST by dearolddad
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I don’t agree with the idea of national healthcare to begin with, but strategically, this seems like a suicide bill for Dems. It goes right after Seniors and middle to low income families.


17 posted on 11/09/2009 4:45:39 AM PST by IamConservative (I'll keep my money. You keep the change.)
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Ach! You are of course right, and the controlling commission, commissioners, and “health czar” have already been created and appointed out of the $787B “stimulus”! BHO is clearly a developmentally arrested adolescent, so who the HELL is steering the slimy, but skilled, takeover?


18 posted on 11/09/2009 7:00:27 AM PST by JohnQ1 (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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19 posted on 11/09/2009 7:21:33 AM PST by Roses0508
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20 posted on 11/09/2009 8:44:35 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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