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Taking Ron Paul Seriously
The Atlantic Online ^ | May 11, 2007 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 05/12/2007 2:23:18 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright

The condescension to and mockery of the sole Republican candidate who seems to care about individual liberty has begun to tick me off. Chris Matthews can be heard groaning "Oh, God," after Paul spoke of the "original intent" of the Founders with respect to the Constitution. And in the YouTube clip below, Rudy Giuliani actually seems to be guffawing after Paul's defense of habeas corpus. I'm glad Paul's supporters are fighting back on the web. He deserves more respect than he has gotten thus far, not least because compared to the pandering of his competitors, Paul actually seems to believe what he says. And what he says has more to do with conservatism than the crap the rest of them are peddling. Here's a clip worth watching again:

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To: trek
"Unfortunately he’s willing to allow the islamderthal horde overrun the world..."

This old canard is manifestly false. Ron Paul is not willing to let the islamo-horde overrun our borders any more than he is willing to let the Mexican hordes overrun our borders. He just insists that the Congress vote a declaration of war before we engage in one. The reason for this should be obvious. It is to avoid the horrific backstabbing of the troops by the craven politicians of both stripes that we see playing out today. I can see no better example of the wisdom of the founders that Ron Paul speaks for than this.

That is worth repeating for those who might have missed your post.

81 posted on 05/12/2007 3:50:52 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Andrew Sullivan sure has a lot of fairweather friends on FR. He was getting much praise here when he supported the failed Iraq war.

Iraq is far from being a failed war. It is the central front in the war on terrorism against the United States.

It is precisely Ron Paul's stance on Iraq that disqualifies him from ever becoming POTUS. He is wrong on the number on issue before our country.

If the war there fails, it will be because it was not prosecuted long enough and hard enough. It will also not be long before we have to fight it here. At that point, the Democrats in Congress and Republicans like Ron Paul will have the blood of American civilians on their hands.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

82 posted on 05/12/2007 3:52:27 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
He deserves more respect...

He once ran on the Losertarian ticket and he wants respect???? This is from the Onion?

83 posted on 05/12/2007 3:53:11 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: The_Eaglet
Ron Paul does. He is anti-Israel and believes Israel runs our foreign policy. That's something I hear from all the DUmmies and other assorted far-leftists.

He's also a big fan of the Alex Jones radio show. Alex Jones thinks Bush did 9/11.

Ron Paul is nothing but the GOP Kucinich.
84 posted on 05/12/2007 3:53:24 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: Allegra

Expert on cross-dressers? Must be a Giuliani supporter.


85 posted on 05/12/2007 3:53:39 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Nah, he’s a nut. If he’s the last man standing vs. Hillary, this country is doomed...same as with much of the current crop of bozo GOP RINO’s. It’s horrible that we can’t get a true Statesman, a Conservative to stand up against the Rats and their enabler Drive By Media...this country is sick and needs drastic surgery to rid us of the Rat Filth. Ron Paul hasn’t a chance...maybe Hunter or Fred...


86 posted on 05/12/2007 3:53:45 PM PDT by GRRRRR ( What's Next? - Lead, Crash or Get Out of The WAY!~)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Where did Ron Paul say that?


87 posted on 05/12/2007 3:54:48 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Austin Willard Wright

I can’t vote for a libertarian ever.


88 posted on 05/12/2007 3:57:27 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: The_Eaglet
In a fundraising letter in 1996, Paul wrote: "It's time that Israel stopped running American foreign policy and draining American taxpayers' wallets."
89 posted on 05/12/2007 3:58:40 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: The_Eaglet

Ron Paul sold out Israel when they were attacked by Hezzbolah. He was the only republican to vote with a few democrats in NOT supporting Israel.


90 posted on 05/12/2007 4:10:19 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

What is your source?


91 posted on 05/12/2007 4:10:21 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Most FReepers apparently seem to love Big Brother when a (R) lives at 1600. When there’s a (D) they’ll suddenly start caring again about little things like habeus, surveillance, etc.


92 posted on 05/12/2007 4:10:32 PM PDT by mgstarr (KZ-6090 Smith W.)
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To: DugwayDuke
I believe it would be Article 1, Section 8: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization...

or perhaps

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.

93 posted on 05/12/2007 4:11:00 PM PDT by Equality 7-2521
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To: jrooney

I was not aware that Israel elected or employed Ron Paul.


94 posted on 05/12/2007 4:11:47 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet
Jewish Telegraphic Agency
95 posted on 05/12/2007 4:17:49 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: The_Eaglet
If Ron Paul has his way, Saddam would still be in power to rape and murder the innocent. Ron Paul voted, NO, NOT PRESENT WHEN HE COULD HAVE, to oppose the Iraq conflict. I do not care that Paul supported a declaration of war against Iraq, I care when he had a chance to vote, he voted no and not present. Talk is CHEAP, how you vote is what matters. Ron Paul is a nutjob and stands as much chance to win the republican nomination as you do, zero. I will do everything in my power to have him defeated.

When the dummies at DU, the kids at Kos land and code pink, sound like Ron Paul and his supporters, it is easy for most of us to see, he is on the wrong side of issues with you, his followers.
96 posted on 05/12/2007 4:22:29 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: jrooney
how you vote is what matters.

Indeed. He voted for the declaration of war against Iraq. If you do not care, that is your problem.

97 posted on 05/12/2007 4:26:15 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: billbears
However Rep. Paul is the only courageous one in the lot because he spoke the truth when it wasn't popular. And that's one reason (among many) why he'll get my vote.

He is speaking the truth when it is popular, too.

98 posted on 05/12/2007 4:33:37 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet
He voted NO, not present, against the Iraq war resolution to remove Saddam. He did not need to vote no, he could have voted present and made his point. He chose not to.

If Paul had his way, Saddam would still be power to rape and murder the innocent.
99 posted on 05/12/2007 4:34:46 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Whatever you think of Paul’s domestic policy, his foreign policy makes him a clear and present danger to the USA.


100 posted on 05/12/2007 4:37:08 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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