Illinois Senate Race (Live Thread)

cbs ^ | 3-16-2004

[presidentbowen]

This is the live thread for the Illinois Senate Race. I have never done a live thread here before as I am still a new freeper. I am very humbled to be a freeper and it is an honor to get to know you all. Here is the link:

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2004/by_state/IL_Page.html?SITE=WBBMTVELN&SECTION=POLITICS#U_S__Senate

[presidentbowen]

Sorry for the long link. Go Jack Ryan!

[presidentbowen]

Oh, and just keep refreshing the page to keep up with the poll results. Enjoy!

[presidentbowen]

Oh, and just keep refreshing the page to keep up with the poll results. Enjoy!

[presidentbowen]

Oh, and just keep refreshing the page to keep up with the poll results. Enjoy!

[presidentbowen]

Sorry for the multiple replies. Some problems there...

[Clintonfatigued]

In the 'Rat primary: With 15% of precincts reporting, it's Obama 99,158 (55.4%), Hynes, 40,879 (22.9%), Pappas, 16,301 (9.1%), Hull 11,299 (6.3%), Chico 8,361 (4.7%), Skinner 1,578 (0.9%), Washington 1,313 (0.7).

I expected Obama to be leading, but the size of the margin is surprising.

[supercat]

Looks like Jack Ryan for Senate. Lyndon Larouche seems to be doing pretty poorly given that he bought radio time. Of course, why he bought it on WLS I'm not quite sure...

[Lead Moderator]

Hi. Welcome aboard.

You posted this to the campaign2002 forum, which really never developed as hoped.

Also, in the main forum, someone already had posted a returns thread.

You can find it here. Thanks, LM

[Clintonfatigued]

On the Republican side, it's Ryan 29,006 (34.3%), Rauchenberger 21,465 (25.4%), Oberweis 20,271 (24.0%), Borling 1,025 (1.2%), Wright 689 (0.8%), Kathuria 556 (0.7%), Hill 381 (0.5%).

Rauchenberger really rallied in the closing days. The divorce controversy may have damaged Ryan.

[Mike04]

Jack Ryan is well on his way to a primary win. His big bucks and solid message will help keep Republicans afloat in this increasingly Democratic state.

Check out Jack Ryan's profile on www.aurepublicans.blogspot.com and support one of the most active College Republicans clubs!

[presidentbowen]

I don't know about you all, but I see Republicans keeping this seat. Go Jack Go!!!

[presidentbowen]

Also, check this out:

Barack=ryhmes with Iraq

Obama=ryhmes with Osama

What a combination. He is going down. Where do I donate to Jack?

[FRgal4u]

Should be an interesting race - tho almost all the pundits gave Ryan zero chance here..

but there is an interesting angle here -

Ryan is tall, real high on charisma quotient, deep pockets, and very intriguing resume (how many I-bankers left wall street and teach in inner city schools)...the divorce thing is worrisome, but who knows..

Obama - as a dem, he will carry the black vote anyway, will his message sell in south/central IL? I don't think he has millions like Ryan do.

My bet is this race will tighten - the 2002 IL gov race was 52D 45R - key is to keep the D under 50..even tho Gore carried IL 55%, the 2002 election still show this state is not a total loss cause yet.. Will see if charisma, $$$ beats the usual dims machine over Chicago.

[JTG]

Jack Ryan is a top tier candidate.

Investment banker for 15 years.

Dartmouth college grad, summa cum laude.

Graduated from Harvard with a JD and an MBA.

Moderate, but still conservative enough for the Republican base.

[spintreebob]

Most significant in the Illinois primary is that with a hotly contested primary with 4 of 7 candidates running major campaign organizations,

the TURNOUT was LOW.

We need to do several things:
1) Re-create 94 when the Moral Majority turned out the base
2) Reach out to those who vote on "friendliness" and not on "issues".
3) Figure out some way for the corrupt officials still in the regular party structure to disappear.

Corruption is still the albatross around the Illinois Republican neck. Until we get clean, even Republicans avoid the label.

[JTG]

True, all good points.

Here's what you should worry about, though.

Yesterday, Obama's vote total alone was higher than all of the Republican candidates' vote totals combined, if I remember correctly. That's something to be worried about.

Predictions:

Senate seat- Obama beats Ryan, 54-45, with minor candidates getting 1%.

Presidential election - Kerry 53%, Bush 45%, Nader 1%, and other candidates get 1% combined.