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1 posted on 09/21/2003 11:56:00 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: SheLion
ping
2 posted on 09/21/2003 11:59:43 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Gauleiter Alexander "Pete" Grannis was also quoted as asking a member of his constituency "Perhaps you have relatives in Ger....New York? Ya?"
3 posted on 09/22/2003 12:01:28 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: kattracks
This is REAL invasion of privacy.

I never could understand that people scream about the sensible measures needed to catch terrorists and protect us and don't revolt over such total invasions of privacy for absolutely no reason, except because the government wants to do it.
4 posted on 09/22/2003 12:25:30 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: EternalVigilance
So what do you think about this total invasion of privacy and individual rights by the government?
5 posted on 09/22/2003 12:26:32 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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But the sponsors of the bills deny such intent. They said each anti-smoking bill has its own merit, including protecting children, helping New York businesses, and reducing litter.

PLEASE think of the CHILDREN!!!!! /sarcasm
7 posted on 09/22/2003 12:31:58 AM PDT by honeygrl
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Does this nannystate law apply to those who drive open air cars like convertibles?

I can guess that the answer is yes, one of those 5 bills proably cites how it is hazardous to drive with a smoke in one hand (at least part of the time). Don't know if they'll outlaw drive-thru food bags in the front seat though...

9 posted on 09/22/2003 12:44:24 AM PDT by weegee
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The master plan is to totaly ban smoking. They are doing it in increments first mandatory no smoking in public places then cars then your own home. Perhaps they will pass a law saying you need a govt issued stamp to have cigs but, to get the stamp you must be in possesion of cigs which would be illegal. This is how they made pot illegal. In ten years tobacco will be illegal and pot will be legal if these people have their way. One day a hardened criminal will drive while unbuckled smoking a cig.
11 posted on 09/22/2003 12:50:00 AM PDT by smadurski
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To: kattracks
And they think there is an underground drug economy. Just wait for this prohibition. I might just have to restart smoking just to spit in theur faces.
15 posted on 09/22/2003 1:15:46 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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If elected bodies of men allow, condone or even tolerate this type of legislation, it is merely a matter of time and differing circumstances before they will also attack any other issue which per chance touches upon their personal selves, a scarred conscience, an arrogant self-defensive reaction, seeking to control that which they do not own, but believe will carnally advance their position.

They are the natural man, a soulish brute, lacking more advanced life of the righteous spirit, but instead react to their scarred souls seeking things of arrogance and selfishness.

They have no love for others who might even be like themselves, and hate even moreso those who endure their attacks. They are probably good for nothing, but until the first death are fulfilling some purpose probably unknown to us at present. Perhaps they simply serve to manifest to all human history that complete emptiness is preferable to their chosen path independent of God.
16 posted on 09/22/2003 1:30:02 AM PDT by Cvengr (0:^))
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Given that 'Rats love to focus on minutia like this, no wonder 9/11 happened! Get a life, 'Rats!
17 posted on 09/22/2003 1:39:22 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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LOL............ I saw a concept car last week that would not let one use the cellular phone or change the tape/CD/station on the stereo unless the vehicle was stopped and transmission in park. Also if the seatbelt wasn't being worn the vehicle could not be shifted out of park. Also the vehicle would go no faster than the federal speed limit. Collision avoidnance braking operational when vehicle was moving faster than 10 mph. Auto dimming bright headlights for environment encountered and approaching vehicles . The vanity mirrors were removed from visors as was the rear view mirror inside , replaced by a LCD screen to preclude the application of makeup, brushing hair or yer basic self lovin mirror licker syndrome.

I suspect the vehicle will never see production as it kills all possibilities for source of local revenue based on BS local laws such as we see on the rise in this story..........Only thing I saw missing was a big clanging bell/siren/flashing light to wake those who travel for 40 miles with their turn signal on. But the designer did jot that note down so blame me if it sees production.

Stay Safe Kattracks !

18 posted on 09/22/2003 1:55:47 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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Sop how much will it take for the People of America to fight back right now its just a cigarette ! of course there is prayer the bible ,God ,Ten Commandments ,Second amendment rights ,property rights just a snip here a snip there over the years they will have us trimmed down to the way we should look one day the very people we used to know as friends will wake up and wonder WOW i used to be able to BBQ on my back porch or yard why am i being arrested for cooking ribs no one told me meat was outlawed.
20 posted on 09/22/2003 2:27:33 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("If guns kill people, where are mine hiding the bodies.")
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To: kattracks
Even if I disregard the comparisons between Hitler and democratic politicians of today, I agree that banning smoking in private cars is not a decision that gives people more freedom. I could understand if states decide, that smoking is illegal for drivers, but the other passengers should be allowed to do what they want.
21 posted on 09/22/2003 2:33:34 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: SheLion
fyi
27 posted on 09/22/2003 3:39:28 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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The further purposeful division of society. CWII coming soon.
28 posted on 09/22/2003 3:57:01 AM PDT by metesky (("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Perhaps the Legislature in Albany could work up some bills to have the all state agencies actually enforce the fedreal ILLEGAL imigration laws in this country - enfrorcing identification and IMMEDIATE depotation, rather than scheduling a hearing 6 months later. [Damn civil servants - seems they just have a job and work for their pensions (an apology to those who care)].. I'm sure they recognize that terrorism is a real isue today and a little bit more important than smoking legilation.
29 posted on 09/22/2003 4:09:21 AM PDT by bart99
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"It's government coming in pretty strong on people's lives and choices."

That's government for ya.

30 posted on 09/22/2003 4:20:25 AM PDT by Wolfie
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They said each anti-smoking bill has its own merit, including protecting children, helping New York businesses, and reducing litter.

Well, why not one BIG bill requiring that we all be wrapped in non-flammable safety orbs and fed government approved nourishment through our veins.

One point for smokers: throwing a cigarette butt down IS littering. I see butts flicked out the window and dropped at store entrances everyday by folks I’m sure don’t think they are littering.

33 posted on 09/22/2003 4:36:33 AM PDT by TankerKC (Pitbull Mauls Dieting McClintock Supporter who was on Atkins.)
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To: *puff_list
PUFF!

FMCDH

34 posted on 09/22/2003 4:42:53 AM PDT by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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bump for later
36 posted on 09/22/2003 5:12:13 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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