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Internet gay cannibalism net widens
expatica ^ | 7/17/03

Posted on 07/17/2003 10:46:08 PM PDT by knak

KASSEL - Prosecutors Thursday said they have filed a murder indictment against one of two gay men who met in an Internet chat room, where it allegedly was agreed that one of them would kill and devour the other.

And in a stunning new development, prosecutors in Kassel said they are broadening the investigation to include some 430 other persons believed to have been involved in the Internet gay cannibalism chat room that led to the death of a 42-year-old man in March 2001.

Prosecutors are convinced that the victim, a computer analyst from Berlin, agreed to be killed and eaten. His dismembered and partially devoured remains were found at the residence of a 41-year-old suspect.

That suspect, identified only as Armin M., has been charged with murder. Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law.

Despite the fact that the victim willingly agreed to be killed, prosecutors said the case could not be considered "assisted suicide". So they opted for a murder indictment.

Prosecutors Thursday said the suspect has admitted videotaping himself killing the Berlin man, a computer chip developer at Siemens corporation, identified only as Bernd Juergen B.

On the morning of his disappearance from Berlin on March 9, 2001, Bernd Juergen B. completed his will. He left the bulk of his estate including a lavish penthouse apartment and EUR 50,000 worth of computer equipment to his live-in partner, a man named Rene.

According to police, the victim had several thousand dollars in cash and his passport when he travelled 300 kilometres from Berlin to the alleged murderer's house near Kassel.

Searching the rambling, 30-room, half-timbered house in the village of Rotenburg, investigators unearthed skeletal remains, some of them packaged in a freezer, along with videotapes and CD-ROMs on which the suspect allegedly recorded his actions.

Authorities were tipped off to the crime by internet surfers who stumbled upon chat room requests allegedly posted by the suspect in which he was looking for people willing to be slaughtered and eaten by him.


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To: tpaine
The deceased man had his penis severed and willingly ate it.

Sure he was demented but some of us see his lifestyle to encompass a whole list of mental disorders.

He's been told by modern society to embrace his sexual deviance. Did he follow that lesson too far?

61 posted on 07/18/2003 8:43:22 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Ask kevin. He's 'into' all this crap.

I'm not.
62 posted on 07/18/2003 8:51:38 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: tpaine
The word "sarcasm" (as in Kevin's "/sarcasm") isn't in your vocabulary, is it?
63 posted on 07/18/2003 8:58:27 PM PDT by Buggman (Stephen King has forgotten the face of his Father)
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To: Buggman
Kevin has no 'sarcasm', he's all demented vitriol.

He been on my case for almost five years now. What's your interest?

64 posted on 07/18/2003 9:05:45 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: tpaine
No kevin, your FR stalking

Stalking? Nonsense. I invited you over to defend the indefensible--a specialty of yours. You didn't have to show up. You used your libertarian freedom and chose to do so. I get pinged all the time. I show up maybe 20 percent of the time. I don't accuse the pingers of "stalking" me.

How is it "murder" in a libertarian sense if the dead man freely consented to it? A unborn child doesn't consent to be killed, yet you do not call its death "murder." Why the disparity? What is the logical distinction?

I'm just trying to make sense of some of the whacky libertarian positions that are alleged to be so perfectly and unimpeachably rational and logical. Help me out here.

65 posted on 07/18/2003 9:13:13 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: tpaine
He been on my case for almost five years now.

Three and a half years. I've only been posting since October 1999.

66 posted on 07/18/2003 9:14:37 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Polycarp; Clint N. Suhks
This is so sick.
67 posted on 07/18/2003 9:16:58 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: Kevin Curry
Don't forget euthenasia. That is consensual sometimes too.
68 posted on 07/18/2003 9:18:29 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Kevin Curry
Whatever.
Time flies when you're having fun by being attacked by loonies.
69 posted on 07/18/2003 9:30:36 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: Kevin Curry
A demented man was murdered & eaten by an equally demented gay ghoul, and kevin curry can't see the HARM? - How demented can you get, curry?

Well, tpaine, I suggest you send a snippet of this article to your Lord High Superlegislator masters of the SCOTUS. It seems it's time for Sandy and Ruthie to take the lead and show the Euroweenies what true liberty and private dignity are all about. [sarcasm]

No kevin, your FR stalking & bizarre behavior has gone far beyond [sarcasm].
You must have 'special' protection to get away with your flaunting of the posting guidelines.
How do you manage? Are you related to some FR big shot? The crazy uncle? How does CJ tie in, as a crazy ideologue?
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Stalking? Nonsense. I invited you over to defend the indefensible--a specialty of yours.

There you go, you admit that 'baiting' me here was your object. Crazy Curry.

You didn't have to show up. You used your libertarian freedom and chose to do so.

I defend myself from the slurs of crazies like you curry, and I get suspended for doing so.
How long since you've been suspended, hmmmm?

I get pinged all the time. I show up maybe 20 percent of the time. I don't accuse the pingers of "stalking" me.

If I slurred & pinged you, as you do me, I'd be suspended in a hot minute. You know that, and take advantage of your 'special' status here.

How is it "murder" in a libertarian sense if the dead man freely consented to it? A unborn child doesn't consent to be killed, yet you do not call its death "murder." Why the disparity? What is the logical distinction? I'm just trying to make sense of some of the whacky libertarian positions that are alleged to be so perfectly and unimpeachably rational and logical. Help me out here.

Ask your 'questions' elsewhere. You're long past my ability to help you curry. You need a pro shrink.

70 posted on 07/18/2003 9:56:38 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
White Kassel burger.

Can you believe that I used to live in Kassel for almost 10 Years? Kassel is an average German City located in Niedersachsen ( Lower Saxony), kinda sleepy type of town the size of West Covina.

Pretty large homo population thou, but never thought they will eat each other for some sick and perverted reasons.

71 posted on 07/18/2003 9:58:56 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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To: Otto von Bismark
He just had a friend over for dinner :)

72 posted on 07/18/2003 10:06:25 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: weegee
Armin Menschenfresser

Let me translate his name: "Armin" is usually a Turkish/Arabic name if my memory serves me right.
"Menschenfresser" translates to "Man Eater" but,...in German Language "essen" is "eating" for Humans, unlike "fressen" is "eating" for non humans...so, the translation of his name would be something like "Animal Like Man Eater".

This is sick, if you ask me!

73 posted on 07/18/2003 10:18:47 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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To: weegee
So cannibalism, per se, is not an offense under Texas law? I'm sure the Germans have laws against mistreating bodies but cannibalism is such a rare offense that I'm sure that laws specifically forbidding it are extremely rare.
74 posted on 07/18/2003 10:46:26 PM PDT by gd124
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To: tpaine; Kevin Curry

For the record, it was you who started off with the slurs when you called Kevin 'demented' when you knew he was being sarcastic, and in fact you have done so a number of times on this thread alone:

Your ideas must truly be impoverished if you have to resort to this sort of vitriol, tpaine. Maybe we just need to contemplate a little more on your little whine you just gave us in order to see your point, but considering your conduct here it won't be easy.

75 posted on 07/18/2003 11:04:15 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: freedumb2003
i was kidding.
76 posted on 07/18/2003 11:38:43 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Skooz
i'm not a cannibal, but they would probably say that microwaving ruins the taste.
77 posted on 07/18/2003 11:41:34 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Cultural Jihad
The record is clear. Curry started this little teapot tempest. Anyone can read his off the wall unsolicited 'ping' to me.

If his silly behavior continues, I may have to invoke the new 'no ping' rule.


78 posted on 07/18/2003 11:52:18 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: knak
My God...this thread is still going. This and the masterbation threads.

I'm starting to think that many on FR are closest "perv's"...

Some of the most active threads are "get your rocks off" threads...

Christ, you would think "Jerry Springer" is at the helm...

Of course, I know...shine some light on the subject and it will "dry up and be cured". :)

79 posted on 07/19/2003 12:04:56 AM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: Brian S
You're telling us a lot about yourself, and nothing about anyone else.
80 posted on 07/19/2003 6:32:01 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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