Vegetarian Advocate: A New York Ban on Meat Consumption in the Workplace [Hidden Agenda Warning]

SATYA Magazine ^ | May 2003 | Jack Rosenberger

[mvpel]

Vegetarian Advocate: A New York Ban on Meat Consumption in the Workplace
By Jack Rosenberger

What are the odds that New York will ban meat consumption in restaurants, bars and workplaces within the next 25 years? None, right?

Maybe not. Twenty-five years ago the idea that New York would ban smoking in restaurants, bars and workplaces was laughable. (In fact, one legislator's response to the legislator who proposed the statewide ban back then, well, was to blow smoke in his face.) Yet, earlier this year New York passed a strict ban on smoking in nearly every restaurant, bar and workplace in the state. With this legislation, New York becomes the third state in the nation -- after California and Delaware -- to pass legislation banning smoking in such venues.

Governor George Pataki signed the bill because "he believes a statewide ban on smoking in the workplace will lead to a healthier New York and reduce the cost of healthcare," says Lisa Dewald Stoll, his press secretary. Would a statewide ban on meat consumption in the workplace also improve the health of New Yorkers and reduce health costs?

Of course, one of the chief reasons New York enacted the statewide ban is due to the health dangers of secondhand smoke. Meat consumption is different in this respect, but it has significant environmental dangers that cigarettes don't, such as large-scale pollution of air and water, greater use of energy, water and other natural resources, and so on. As eating meat is increasingly recognized as an environmentally devastating act, its appeal will continue to erode.

Meanwhile, it's up to vegetarians like you and me to, as animal activist Henry Spira liked to say, push the peanut forward. We need to educate family, friends, and enemies about the health disadvantages of carnivorism (Did somebody say heart disease? Cancer? Obesity?) and the advantages of vegetarianism. Today, a statewide ban on meat consumption seems like an impossible dream, but what we are trying to achieve is something that could happen in a distant tomorrow.

If you believe in great dreams, if you believe your life has a noble purpose, pick up a copy of Peter Singer's biography of Henry Spira, Ethics Into Action (Rowman & Littlefield), and revel in what Henry accomplished for the animals during his lifetime. With a lot of hard work and a little luck, you can do the same.

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[xm177e2]

The peanut-pushers had better watch out for Aflatoxin. That's more dangerous than anything you can get from meat.

[Finny]

They argue that between heart disease, cholesterol, etc, that eating meat isn't healthy when compared to a vegetarian diet, which may be true.

Some anecdotal info: I recently worked a very enjoyable four-month "temp" job in an office where out of eight women, including myself, four of us were meat-eaters, and four were vegetarians. Of the four vegetarians, three were very much overweight, and those three called in "sick" during the four months I was there at least twice, and all four had chronic health problems, especially with alergies and anemia.

Of we four meat eaters, NONE of us called in sick once during the four months I was there, NONE of us would be considered "fat" by any standards, and NONE of us had chronic health problems or alergies beyond minor hay-fever.

[Finny]

They argue that between heart disease, cholesterol, etc, that eating meat isn't healthy when compared to a vegetarian diet, which may be true.

Some anecdotal info: I recently worked a very enjoyable four-month "temp" job in an office where out of eight women, including myself, four of us were meat-eaters, and four were vegetarians. Of the four vegetarians, three were very much overweight, and those three called in "sick" during the four months I was there at least twice, and all four had chronic health problems, especially with alergies and anemia.

Of we four meat eaters, NONE of us called in sick once during the four months I was there, NONE of us would be considered "fat" by any standards, and NONE of us had chronic health problems or alergies beyond minor hay-fever.

[Finny]

They argue that between heart disease, cholesterol, etc, that eating meat isn't healthy when compared to a vegetarian diet, which may be true.

Some anecdotal info: I recently worked a very enjoyable four-month "temp" job in an office where out of eight women, including myself, four of us were meat-eaters, and four were vegetarians. Of the four vegetarians, three were very much overweight, and those three called in "sick" during the four months I was there at least twice, and all four had chronic health problems, especially with alergies and anemia.

Of we four meat eaters, NONE of us called in sick once during the four months I was there, NONE of us would be considered "fat" by any standards, and NONE of us had chronic health problems or alergies beyond minor hay-fever.

[DAnconia55]

Oh. I wasn't applying that directly to you.

Just making a point :)

[aruanan]

If this should happen, the appropriate response would be to take salamis to work to pummel the vegetarians about the head and neck.

[Finny]

SORRY for the triple post!! I have no idea how it happened!

[Cvengr]

Dr. Laura recently mentioned that a news reporter in Virginia ran a followup on the duckling story a few weeks ago.

If you remember, a duck and her ducklings went a waddling through downtown Washington DC during rush hour. Traffic stopped, roadrage was abated as motorists peered out their windows to see the Duck and her ducklings waddle by across the highway.

A woman jumped across the street in front of an oncoming bus to save the ducklings, she followed and interruptted traffic the next block over,...for the safety of the little ducklings wouldn't you know?

The reporter followed up on this selfless deed of heroism and inquired as to the woman's line of work, seeing how she risked her life in front of a bus to save a few little ducklings.

As it turns out, she works at a planned parenthood clinic assisting in the provision of abortions.

Wouldn't you know it.

[aruanan]

Of we four meat eaters, NONE of us called in sick once during the four months I was there, NONE of us would be considered "fat" by any standards, and NONE of us had chronic health problems or allergies beyond minor hay-fever.

And the nation with citizens who continue to have one of the longest lifespans in history and an increasingly longer lifespan each year is a non-vegetarian country. While it is possible to get one's full complement of essential amino acids on a vegetarian diet, one can't as easily get all one's vitamins on vegan diet without supplementation. This, in and of itself, shows that veganism is unnatural because it doesn't supply the body with what it actually needs.

[mvpel]

And an apt point it is, indeed.

[ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds]

i like little and big animale with faces - however, atached to each of thoes faces is a liver that produces cloestoral - recently i discovered, becauses i have eaten faces for a long time, my clorestrol accumulation in my heart artery had constricted one of the arteries 90% and i was a walking heart atack waiting to happen - through a modern marvel of angeoplasty, i now have full size arteries, assuming i refrain from colesterol and sugar - heart disease is the primary killer of adult males in the U.S. - eating meat may be worse that secomd-hand smoke in accumulating american dead bodies - there are a host of tasty sources of required protine if you tke the time to prepare them in a tasty manner - go ahead and eat your meat and dairy products - we will see you face up on the sidewalk someday and say, no, he didn't die from second-hand smoke

[mvpel]

...there are a host of tasty sources of required protine if you tke the time to prepare them in a tasty manner - go ahead and eat your meat and dairy products - we will see you face up on the sidewalk someday and say, no, he didn't die from second-hand smoke.

The problem with the author of the initial article is that he's not content to let us go ahead and eat our meat and dairy products, he wants to wield the coercive force of government against us to prevent us from doing so.

[Freebird Forever]

Except for the warning in scripture that in the last days men will say not to eat meat.

I guess I missed that one. In which book, chapter & verse does that statement occur?

TIA

[Gabz]

Of course, one of the chief reasons New York enacted the statewide ban is due to the health dangers of secondhand smoke.

What dangers and to who????? Typical left-wing sheeple propaganda.

Meat consumption is different in this respect, but it has significant environmental dangers that cigarettes don't, such as large-scale pollution of air and water, greater use of energy, water and other natural resources, and so on. As eating meat is increasingly recognized as an environmentally devastating act, its appeal will continue to erode.

Here he's got some things right. The cooking of beef, or anything for that matter, including his vegatables, is going to cause more pollution indoors than a room full of smokers ever will.

My suggestion to this particular enviro-weenie is to take it outside, but don't cook it - eat it off the vine.

Personally I think I will go fire up the grill and toss on a couple of burgers!!!!!!

[Gabz]

Second hand smoke has long been an annoyance to those of us who didn't smoke. And in many buildings the level of smoke in the air truly was a health hazard.

Maybe an annoyance, but not a health threat for those without a pre-existing ailment.

There is no such concern as "second hand meat".

Actually you are incorrect here. The carcinogens that are released by grilling that steak or burger you wish to enjoy far exceed those emitted by the burning ends of even a room full of cigarette smokers.

You are correct the veggies will not win this battle, but only because of the hypocrisy of the anti-smoker organizations - they will not sit by idly while their ox (or cow) is gored.

[Gabz]

The food Nazi's, however, will affect everyone, and this should wake some people up to the fact that government is more than willing to allow tyranny of the minority.

And it is going to be amusing to watch. Because many of the ones going after the food industry are the same ones that went after the tobacco industry and the smoekrs - and they are bragging about how they plan to use the same tactics on the food industry as they did with tobacco.

There is ging to be heck to pay, because not all of the anti-smokers are going to go along with the food attack.

I love watching facists eat their own!!!!

[Gabz]

go ahead and eat your meat and dairy products - we will see you face up on the sidewalk someday and say, no, he didn't die from second-hand smoke

Sorry, you're wrong. Any death of any person who even ever saw a cigarette advertisement is 100% because of second-hand smoke. And it is always a premature death, even if the person was 96 years old.

I think I'll go finish grilling my burgers and add another large dollop of sour cream to the macaroni salad I am making.

[DAnconia55]

It's the sugar that causes cholesterol to bind to blood vessels.

People on high protein, low carb diets generally have a DROP in their cholesterol. Odd, but true.

[DannyTN]

"Except for the warning in scripture that in the last days men will say not to eat meat." "I guess I missed that one. In which book, chapter & verse..."

1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

I have an interesting story about that verse. Some 20 years ago my car suddenly died down in Baton Rouge and I pulled over right where a man wearing a white robe was. He thinks I'm giving him a ride. But he said thanks and seemed nice enough, and the car starts back up.

So we take off and he starts telling me that Jesus has come back and is in Colorado. And he's quoting a portion of the verse about "in the east as in the west" as a way of trying to justify Jesus' appearance in Colorado.

Of course that verse means Christians in both the east and the west will know almost instantaneous when Jesus comes back. Not only that, there's another verse that says if someone comes and says "He's in the wilderness don't even bother to go look" that ran through my mind.

So anyway, for some reason (probably the Spirit's prompting), I thought of this verse, and it occurred to me to ask if he believed in eating meat. And sure enough, he goes off on how the original food in the garden was to be fruits and plants, and eating meat was a great sin.

So anyway I explained to him I didn't think his friend was Jesus and tried to explain why. I wish I knew the scriptures well enough then to have been able to show him those verses on the fly.

By the way, according to this guy, the world came to an end, I guess 13 years ago. I wonder what he's doing now.

[Rebel-without-a-pause]

At this very moment we have a steak on the grill, baked potato in the oven as well as corn on the cob. I think I'll have a large dollop of butter/w sour cream on the potato and loads of butter on the corn on the cob. yum-yum. Does that make me an omnivore? I hope so. Later grazers.