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A few days old but still relevant.

I'm sure us "selfish addicted smokers who can't go two hours without our precious cigarettes" will be blamed for this restaurant's demise.

1 posted on 07/03/2003 10:44:40 AM PDT by Drew68
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Ping to the Puff List for smoking related articles.
2 posted on 07/03/2003 10:46:49 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Perhaps the food tasted so bad that once customers' taste buds weren't dulled by tobacco smoke, they realized how awful it was and stopped going.
3 posted on 07/03/2003 10:48:52 AM PDT by Dilly
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To: Drew68
Where'd all the non-smokers go that wanted this ban? They get all the smokers out and then they don't show up??? Now I say they should pass a law requiring non-smokers to get their butts (pardon the pun) into all these bars that are struggling! NY is having the exact same problem.
4 posted on 07/03/2003 10:49:03 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Drew68
hmmm... it would be interesting to know the correlation between this kind of government interference in the legal operation of business and the climbing unemployment rates....
6 posted on 07/03/2003 10:53:31 AM PDT by TnMomofTwo
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To: Drew68
I would call this a case of "reverse condemnation"...the city took away at least part of his ownership rights.

He should pursue this course of action vs. the city.

A gentleman in St. Louis won a very large verdict against the City using "reverse condemnation"...it wasn't smoking related, however it was related to the city's restricting the property owner's rights under ownership.

7 posted on 07/03/2003 10:55:14 AM PDT by demsux
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To: Drew68
CAUTION: SMOKING MAY CAUSE THE LOSS OF FREEDOM
13 posted on 07/03/2003 11:23:48 AM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: Drew68
Actually, I do have a personal grudge against smokers who just insist on lighting up all the time, regardless of their surroundings - especially those who smoke in the no-smoking sections of resteraunts - BUT:

My personal feelings aside, I have always believed that it should be up to the business owner if he/she (for the PC crowd) allows smoking. The free-market ideal should take care of the decision.

If I have an alternative up the road that caters more to my needs and wantd, then that's where I go. If, as a non-smoker who really hates the smell of cigarette smoke, I don't want to be innundated with smoke, I don't go to businesses that allow it unless they have some way of truly separating the smoking from non-smoking. A smoker has the same choice - if a resteraunt does not allow smoking, he doesn't have to do business with that resteraunt.

Pretty simply - too bad the left thinks that government knows better than the citizens....
21 posted on 07/03/2003 11:51:10 AM PDT by TheBattman
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To: Drew68
While I don't smoke, I think this nation, as a whole, has turned into a bunch of wussies.

I moved into a new neighborhood and my car was parked in the driveway but partly blocking the sidewalk. Now, 10 or 15 years ago, people walked around the car and back onto the sidewalk (and went on with their lives). Now, they want to sue you for the way in which you have your parked car in YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY.

When I go to a bar or a restaurant I expect smoke. This is probably why I don't get my panties in a bunch over the issue.

Smoking is a great American tradition. My clothes smell terrible when I get home, but that's what a washer is for.

Anyone who thinks it's bad in America should go to the U.K. for a week or two. Just about everyone smokes over there.

And, in fairness to smokers, at least in the U.S., most people I've run into go out of their way to find a place to smoke, where they feel they won't be bothering anyone.

Some of the most friendly people I've ever met smoke.

29 posted on 07/03/2003 12:09:28 PM PDT by tuna_battle_slight_return (Sine waves.)
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Proposed protest slogan: JUST STAY HOME

Put it on every cig pack. Freedom-loving people don't want to associate with nico-nazis. All they gotta do is stay home en masse.
30 posted on 07/03/2003 12:14:22 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: Drew68
"Aristotle and the philosophers can say what they like, but there is nothing equal to tobacco: it's an honest man's habit, and anyone who can get on without it doesn't deserve to be living at all." - Molière
36 posted on 07/03/2003 1:37:04 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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Every parade requires a bit of sweeping, won't be noticed at all in a few days.
45 posted on 07/03/2003 5:28:39 PM PDT by Old Professer
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And without a viable bar business, he couldn't offset his food costs.

Yep, the bar generates 70%+ of the restaruant profits. The only way restaruants that lose bar business (because smokers want to smoke at the bar) can stay in business is to GREATLY increase food costs.

55 posted on 07/07/2003 8:18:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: Drew68
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Which tyrant would prohibit me from welcoming smoking customers?
Whom does this place belong to?

"The role of government is not to create wealth.
The role of government is to create an environment
in which the entrepreneur or small business or
dreamer can flourish. And that starts with rule of law,
respect of private property, less regulatory burdens on the
entrepreneur, open banking laws so that all people
have access to capital, and good tax policy."
President George W. Bush
St. Petersburg University,
St. Petersburg, Russia
May 25, 2002 ___________________________________________________
Benjamin FRANKLIN on security and liberty
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, quoted in Suzy Platt, Respectfully Quoted: A Dictionary of Quotations (Barnes and Noble, 1993), p. 201.
_______________________________________________
Patrick HENRY on liberty and resistance
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!."
-- Patrick Henry, Speech of March 23, 1775
Whats next placard my butt witha sign that says danger methane gas after eating taco bell...ridiculous...u bet...to smoking nazi's.....your actions are treason like and our liberties are worth fighting for...I did 10 years usmc for our way of life...and u want to take it away...by the way...I'm a non-smoker!!!!

76 posted on 09/18/2003 4:31:22 PM PDT by Daletoledo (Wake up America)
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To: Drew68
Non-smokers rule, finally. As they should.

Smoking asphyxiates those among us who are not blessed with the lungs to absorb and dissipate noxious cigarette smoke.

I have nothing against smokers per se and I do not have a problem with cigars or pipes. Just cigarettes. So for me it is purely a health issue.


BUMP

79 posted on 11/17/2003 8:54:04 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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