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To: spunkets
You're not just teaching that homos are bad. You're teaching that they are evil and want the ability to punish them for what they do. You're not simply opposing homosexual behavior on a rational basis.

Take it easy, sister. You're totally out of your league so I'll try to dumb it down for you as much as possible:

Laws are a reflection of what a society views as important. If we had to get a unanimous decision on every law in the books, we'd have a situation pretty close to anarchy. Perhaps that's what you want, who knows?

For over 200 years we've had laws on the books in this country that prohibited the act of sodomy and other forms of deviant sexual behavior? Why? Because this was a reflection of the recognition among the great mass of people that such behavior was disordered, against the natural law, and indeed harmful.

As of the 1960s, there was a tectonic shift in people's personal morality thanks to, among other things, a steady drumbeat of big-lie propaganda telling them that they could now have sex without worrying about those nasty traditional consequences--STDs and pregnancy. Forty years on, we've reaped a terrible whirlwind of abortion, disease, and death for thus sowing the wind.

You're on a tyranical crusade to crush them and anyone else that doesn't see things your way.

Tell me, do you think AIDS would have become the scourge that it is had we not given up any attempt at enforcing sodomy laws? I posit that it would have been better for those with homosexual tendencies if we had enforced such laws. More of them might actually be alive and healthy today.

The fact is that the true enemies of people afflicted with homosexual attraction are those who tell them that their identity as a human being is completely dependent upon what they do with their sex organs--who tell them that if they don't act on their impulses, they are doing harm to themselves. This is another example of the big lie.

Contrary to your hysterical rant above, those of us who fight against the gay-deathstyle pushers and their lazy "straight" enablers actually do a much greater service to those with same sex attraction. And we do it out of true love--charitas. What is the motivation of the other side? Nothing but pure selfish eros.
295 posted on 06/27/2003 10:44:11 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
" Laws are a reflection of what a society views as important. "

That's true. However that doesn't imply that the law is rightful, or wise.

" As of the 1960s, there was a tectonic shift in people's personal morality thanks to, among other things, a steady drumbeat of big-lie propaganda telling them that they could now have sex without worrying about those nasty traditional consequences--STDs and pregnancy."

No, there was no techtonic shift, because of some word of marvelous med tech. It was, because the purveyors of morality failed to make a persuasive rational, consistent case for what they were preaching. Their mistake was to resort to the power of the state to enforce their worldview. That they saw as a way to maximize their effect. Effects gained by the power of force over reason and example. Fire, brimstone and the heavy hand of the law doesn't make a powerful persuasive force.

What they did was to make a pact with the socialists first, in the belief that the redistribution of goods and services was a good thing. Once the socialists gained their new tool to bribe the electorate, they dumped them. They weren't interested in the moral ideas of their old enabling allies. Letting the serfs have their fun is a powerful tool for them to wield. It keeps 'em happy, ignorant and preoccupied.

Rather than allowing the natural consequences of behavior to occur, they insisted on imposing their own consequences and accompanied them with irrational claims, reasons and tales. That, along with the tyranny imposed by having this unnatural order imposed by the force of law alienated those folks they were trying to reach. They were and remain in the hands of the socialists. They not only feed them now, they give them whatever they want to keep them dumb and happy.

" Tell me, do you think AIDS would have become the scourge that it is had we not given up any attempt at enforcing sodomy laws?

Scourge? Africa's morality allows for open sex. Homos everywhere are unbridled. The proper response is to simply let the consequences of their actions be the light. Your attempt to control it with jailings and redistributed resources, draging everyone else down with them is ridiculous. " I posit that it would have been better for those with homosexual tendencies if we had enforced such laws. More of them might actually be alive and healthy today."

You evidently don't understand them. They are homos, they aren't going to stop, because you threaten jail. The real ones will never marry. They'll not give up the party 'till they see fit to. They'll just hate your guts. Other folks will see you picking the fight and come to a similar conclusion.

"The fact is that the true enemies of people afflicted with homosexual attraction are those who tell them that their identity as a human being is completely dependent upon what they do with their sex organs--who tell them that if they don't act on their impulses, they are doing harm to themselves. This is another example of the big lie.

Sure it is.

"Contrary to your hysterical rant above, those of us who fight against the gay-deathstyle pushers and their lazy "straight" enablers actually do a much greater service to those with same sex attraction. And we do it out of true love--charitas. What is the motivation of the other side? Nothing but pure selfish eros.

Your efforts contain irrational claims, like your claim that med tech leads to something. It doesn't. Med tech is tech, not cause. You also insist on changing homos by force. You can't. They ARE homos. Let them be.

"And we do it out of true love--charitas. What is the motivation of the other side? Nothing but pure selfish eros.

If you love them, set them free. If they don't return, they were never yours. All else is a selfish act to impose ones will on the world (with other people's money).

314 posted on 06/27/2003 1:06:21 PM PDT by spunkets
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