[John O]

Nice work, John, all the way through.

Thanks. I've always admired your way with words also.

But you'll notice that tdadams did not want to actually debate my points

They never do. The SAD apologists want to just advance the agenda and then run away. But facts and truth continue to hunt them down and make them uncomfortable. Thats why I respond. I think it's kind of cool that just stating the truth can make people squirm so much. It's kind of like pouring salt on slugs (but not nearly as cruel) They squirm and squirm and try to get away but nothing really works. Hopefully someday they'll stop dancing around the facts and actually read them and then they can be changed.

[ArGee]

facts and actually read them and then they can be changed.

Sadly, no. It has nothing to do with the facts, but a desire to continue in sin.

John 3:20 (ESV)
 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

Shalom.

[tdadams]

While you guys slather yourselves in untuous self-congratulations and exchange cyber high-fives, I do hope you'll have one small fleeting moment of introspective honesty. While you may fool yourselves into actually believing you've won the debate, some small part of your brain has to be telling you that your claims of victory are entirely vacuous. If anything it's a victory of attrition.

Everyone has a tolerance limit to the amount of overall B.S. you guys spew. I've got a much higher tolerance threshold than most, but even I have reached my limit. Besides that, I really don't have the all-consuming interest in this topic that you seem to have.

So continue to wallow in the credulity of your little 'suspended logic' club. Keep fighting, like Hiroo Onoda, a battle that has long since passed you by and made you the subject of amuzement among those watching you.

Keep making untenable claims of scientific dubiosity. Keep fighting to impose your will and your religious beliefs at the point of the government's gun since you've failed to make your case by persuasion. Keep convincing yourself that your subjective and easily debunked distortions and rhetorical strawmen are really objective and ironclad facts. Keep insisting that your contorted logical non sequiturs are really irrefutable.

I tend to think your statements here are simply a Pavlovian repetition of the dogma you've been fed by the fundraising letters from Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council. But, if you truly believe all of the pap you post here, I can only be envious that you have the capability to paint your world entirely according to what you wish it to be, dismissively ignoring anything that's dischordant with your own beliefs and experience.

Certainly, people who think like that are nothing new, but they tend to be the same kind of people who will move to the jungles of Ghana and drink a cyanide-Kool Aid cocktail because their leader said so.

You guys carry on. I'm going to sit on the sidelines and be amuzed.