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This article is two years old, imagine how much more DAMAGE the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA has caused since then!!!!!
1 posted on 03/06/2003 11:13:11 AM PST by GrandMoM
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To: GrandMoM
It might be two years old but it's the first time I've seen it. And it couldn't be more relevant. Thanks for the post.
2 posted on 03/06/2003 11:28:48 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: GrandMoM
Q: If I can't use the Ladies Room, why can they use the Mens?
4 posted on 03/06/2003 11:46:00 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Peace is Good, Freedom is Better!)
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To: GrandMoM; RAT Patrol; Brad Cloven
Bump


Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'

The Deception and Desensitization of America's Youth

Hatch Amendment Letter - Parental Consent Form for use in the Public Schools

6 posted on 03/06/2003 12:19:08 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: scripter
Ping
10 posted on 03/07/2003 5:57:41 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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To: GrandMoM
Guess what GrandMoM? It's that time of year in Massachusetts where public schools are offering "Fistgate" again!

http://www.massnews.com/2003_Editions/3_March/030703_mn_fistgate_again.shtml
12 posted on 03/07/2003 6:04:50 AM PST by ladylib
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To: GrandMoM; Remedy; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; buffyt; L.N. Smithee; Lilly; ...
Thanks for the ping. I'll ping the rest of the list.

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14 posted on 03/07/2003 7:43:32 AM PST by scripter
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To: GrandMoM
homos blow (among other things)


16 posted on 03/07/2003 9:15:30 AM PST by tomkat
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To: GrandMoM
[I would rather walk a mile barefoot on broken glass than endure a confrontation with homosexual zealots.]


Speaking of confrontations, remember the anti-Dr. Laura scene on The West Wing sometime ago?

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The West Wing episode that blasted Dr. Laura was little more than an attack ad. The rant by "President Bartlet" was full of venom and hyperbole.

The character is portrayed as a very prominently devout Catholic so his rant seemed to be hypocritical; the Church teaches that Scripture opposes same gender sexual acts as immoral always. The orthodoxies of Judaism and Protestantism pretty much arrive at the same conclusion. And they all teach that all of Scripture is the inviolate word of God and that all of it is to be followed by believers. Within each the consistency is well-scrutinize, however, inter-faith contradictions persist (of course).

The scriptwriter, Aaron Sorkin, has admitted to the gay publication, The Advocate, that his rant scene's list of ordinances from Mosaic Law was just an excuse to blast Dr. Laura. Unfortunately the means used amounted to a rather ill-informed attack on the moral relevancy of the Bible. Disagree with people and disagree with their religious beliefs, but why shoutdown someone with a rant that gets most of the references very, very wrong? Seems self-defeating to me because it destroys the creditibility of everyone involved -- both sides get smeared.

Anyway, here's a tongue-in-cheek replay of the scene, but with the Dr. Laura character actually speaking up with a few answers to the rhetorical questions of the show's President Bartlet. If you watch The West Wing you might get some of the show-related jokes and puns in the added responses from the Dr. Laura character.

This replay appeared in a discussion of The West Wing (The Midterms) at the following website: www.televisionwithoutpity.com


A literal account of the Bartlet v. Dr. Laura scene:

BARTLET: Forgive me, Dr. Laura, are you an M.D.?

DR LAURA: No sir, I'm not a medical doctor.

My credentials? Well, I have a B.S. in Biology Sciences, State University. An M.S. and Ph.D in Physiology and an M. Philosophy from Colombia. Post-doctoral certification in marriage, family, and child counseling, University of Southern California. Member of the graduate psychology faculty, Pepperdine University. And I've been in private practice, psychotherapy, for more than twelve years.

And I play theological Scrabble at the master level in Hebrew, Latin, and Geek.

BARTLET: Good. I like your show. I like how you call homosexuality an abomination. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while I had you here.

DR LAURA: As you may know, sir, my viewpoint on biblical matters is drawn from the religious tradition of orthodox rabbinic Judaism. Did I mention that I am immune to the #2 pencil anomaly?

BARTLET: I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, and always clears the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be? While thinking about that, can I ask another?

DR LAURA: Mr. President, the Bible doesn't commend slavery. And there is no requirement that you sell your daughter. You could give it a try but you'd risk the wrath of the TWoP Anti-Female Sexism thread. With a second language and general cleanliness, Zoey is good for a slave's wage, err, I mean, minimum wage -- plus tips -- at La Rosa Puzzante.

BARTLET: My Chief of Staff, LeoO McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath, Exodus 35:2, clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police?

DR LAURA: Rest assured that you, sir, are not morally obligated to execute Mr. McGarry, however, if you decide to take him to the proper authorities please be sure to bring three witnesses, both parties, and elders. But a word of preventative advice: give your COS a break and let him enjoy conjugal "barbeques" on the Sabbath before it's too late for his marriage.

As you know, Mr. President, you don't have the authority to try capital cases. This country has a civil judiciary branch of government. No matter. While "executive insomnia" probably doesn't mean much to you just now, [SPOILER] by Season Four Mr. McGarry's hardwork will pay off and you'll get to put someone to death by calling your own enforcement officers [/SPOILER]. Excuse the self-censorship, sir, that was a national security spoiler.

BARTLET: Here's one that's really important, because we've got a lot of sports fans in this town. Touching the skin of a dead pig makes us unclean, Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point?

DR LAURA: Even if the footballs were made of pigskin, they aren't food. But if you were to swallow a football, it still wouldn't make you unclean. Although I think it might be a bit tough to pass (pun intended). Besides, the big leagues play with footballs made of cowhide and cows are kosher. Same goes for vynil. Both are as innocuous as your pigskin wallet. So playing football is not considered a sin, unlike the other thing.

There's an old rabbinic statement that might help with your implied complaint:
A person shouldn't say, "I really can't stand pork." It's better to say, "I would really, really, really like to indulge in some. But my Father in heaven has declared it to be forbidden."

BARTLET: Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?

DR LAURA: Well, sir, your brother can thank God that Leviticus 19:19 has never provided for that sort of punishment for gardeners. On the other hand, if John doesn't grow his own weed, he might want to go to Canada to get legally stoned.

As for your mom's fashion sense, the Bible does provide for a proportional response. If a sanction was deserved, the hip Fashion Court could set aflame the First Mom's wardrobe high atop the altar of modernity. Or your Mom could have a postmodern garage sale.

Sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind. [Sotto voce] Let's hope she doesn't have a special relationship with her shoes. [/Sotto voce]

BARTLET: One last thing. While you may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting of the Ignorant Tightass Club, in this building, when the President stands, nobody sits.

DR LAURA: [Blink] With all due respect, Mr. President, you are one of the most prominent Catholics in this country. Why do you pose as a petty legalist? Picking and choosing from scripture out of context, twisting the facts, giving yourself permission to rudely take a run at someone whose religious views differ from your own? As a good host, you won't mind me reminding you, sir, that, in our country and in this White House, the President doesn't get to replay the Inquisition.

Now, while you stand there in your wrongness, and I sit here on my size nine derriere, please accept this, the last crab puff in the room. It's "New England" crab and I've saved it just for you. Sit. Enjoy.

[With a big tip of the hat to this website and to this website and this website]




HERE are the websites that the above poster linked:

http://www.christian-torah.com/dr__laura.htm
http://www.equip.org/free/DP801.htm
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/daily_life/Kashrut/TO_Kashrut_Th_and_Th.htm




PLUS BACKGROUND from a sample of religious orthodoxies:

AMERICAN ANGLICAN CHURCH (Homosexuality and the Great Commandment)
http://www.americananglican.org/Issues/Issues.cfm?ID=498&c=16

Roman Catholic (comprehensive discussion)
http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=18375
http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=18679

ORTHODOX JUDAISM (Sexuality and Jewish Law)
http://www.atid.org/ATIDbiblio1.htm
http://www.jewishjournal.com/archive/07.14.00/othervoices.07.14.00.html
http://www.jonahweb.org/html/library-freundel.phtml

CHRISTIANITY IN GENERAL (Jerusalem Council and Mosaic Law)
http://www.seiwakai.co.za/Jerusalem%20council.html

EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY (Jesus and the Law of Moses)
http://www.carmical.net/articles/moses.html

MESSIANIC JEWS (Mosaic Law today)
http://www.ariel.org/ff00006f.html

THE SECULAR CASE (Legal and social)
http://www.leaderu.com/ftissues/ft9601/reviews/kristol.html
http://www.stonewallrevisited.com/issues/theo.html
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/3880/CFI/cfreport/
18 posted on 12/23/2003 12:11:41 PM PST by Runaboutalot
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