1 posted on
02/14/2003 3:46:16 AM PST by
kattracks
To: SheLion
ping
2 posted on
02/14/2003 3:46:41 AM PST by
kattracks
To: kattracks
Music to the ears of smugglers, New Hampshire smokes are $3 a pack and only 3 hours away.
4 posted on
02/14/2003 3:53:29 AM PST by
StriperSniper
(Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
To: kattracks
"Gov. Pataki lauded the ruling and said the state law "will play a critical role in our aggressive efforts to prevent minors from purchasing cigarettes,"..."Nonsense and balderdash. It's about two things and two things only: "mon" and "ey".
To: kattracks
Another intervention by the Fed when it suits
them. So much for compassion for our "
Native Americans"
SR
6 posted on
02/14/2003 3:57:23 AM PST by
sit-rep
To: kattracks
This approach will have several obvious side effects:
() Creating a new line of business for organized crime enxuring that certain Families That Shall Nto Be Named shall remain rich and powerful into the far future.
(2) Creating a new line of business for small-time entrepreneurs.
(3) Creating a war on the street between (1) and (2). Yes, there will be civilian casualties, so then the geniuses in the legislature will have to go to
(4) More gun control.
Wildly overtaxing one product relative to all others has never worked in the history of man.
But since the only history they teach these days is politically correct history which ignores the accumulated wisdom of thousands of years of dead white men we are destined to keep making the same stupid mistakes over and over and over again. :-(
7 posted on
02/14/2003 4:00:05 AM PST by
cgbg
(Between terrorism and taxes, somebody is trying to give NYers a hint. Time to say bye bye big apple.)
To: kattracks
Is there a limit on how many cigarets one may have that do not have a ny tax stamp?
8 posted on
02/14/2003 4:12:44 AM PST by
THEUPMAN
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To: kattracks
...it merely requires that they purchase cigarettes in a manner that allows the seller to verify the buyer's age and to collect the state excise tax." I wonder if New Yorkers can still buy porn online? I thought that congress passed a law that says a credit card is a valid way to prove that one is not a minor. Or maybe its just the tax they are worried about? Hmmm? Ya think?
9 posted on
02/14/2003 4:26:12 AM PST by
Grit
(Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
To: kattracks
And this would be a legal precedence working toward a ban all direct selling?
12 posted on
02/14/2003 5:47:56 AM PST by
CPOSharky
(Therapist for those hockey-puck irrational numbers)
To: kattracks
How is the state going to enforce it?
Snoop everyone online?
Random snooping?
Sounds unenforcable.
13 posted on
02/14/2003 6:14:36 AM PST by
metesky
(My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
To: kattracks
Modern day stamp act. History does repeat itself.
16 posted on
02/14/2003 6:30:04 AM PST by
Renatus
To: kattracks; Max McGarrity; Bonaparte; uglybiker
The ruling means consumers can buy cigarettes only from licensed dealers who sell taxed cigarettes with the familiar stamp at the bottom of each pack. New Yorkers ain't stupid. This stupid ruling will create a new set of criminals...smokers who want to save a buck.
To: kattracks
I say they all start stuffing their own.
Screw the NY tax collectors.
The other way is to buy online outside the country. You really think those outside the country are going to give their customer lists to NY state or NYC?
To: kattracks
The ruling means more than $700 million a year in increased tax revenues for the state, according to estimates. No it doesn't, there are other ways of getting out of being fleezed by the government, the legal one is..... ROLL YOUR OWN... it's the cheapest way I know, mind you if everybody does that, it won't be long before they will raise the tax on loose tobacco equal to that of a carton......... Bastids.
To: kattracks
Gov. Pataki lauded the ruling and said the state law "will play a critical role in our aggressive efforts to prevent minors from purchasing cigarettes," as well as pumping revenue into the strapped state coffers.Nice to hear our "REPUBLICAN" Governor weigh in on this.
To: kattracks
This is, of course, a disgusting display of greed on the part of NY. As far as I'm concerned, they done made their beds by raising taxes so high, and now they ought to be made to sleep in them.
And now I have a question for you legal eagles out there: According to the article, it seems that INTERNET sales in New York have been prohibited by this ruling. Fine. But later in the article it says that all sales must be made by licensed dealers in face-to-face transactions and that these dealers must pay the NYS taxes. Am I right so far?
Assuming that I've got this all straight, what about the people who actually drive to reservations to make purchases? How can NYS enforce this law on them? Where does it say in the actual ruling that face-to-face transactions which take place on sovereign Indian territory are now illegal? Will there now be roadblocks at the edges of reservations?
Regards,
PS: Oh, BTW...my husband is a cop and I can tell you right now that HELL would freeze over before he engaged in cig-tax roadblocks. I think many cops would balk at such a thing, mainly because LOTS of them smoke themselves and are also smart enough to purchase from the Indians as well...
To: kattracks
They just created a niche market in other states.
A company like mail boxes etc opens up ... for an additional 15-20.00 a month + shipping they will act as a mail forwarder .... they have a PO box where you drop stuff and they mail it to you once a month in a bulk shipment for whatever it is that you want to order online.
55 posted on
02/15/2003 5:49:38 PM PST by
Centurion2000
(Chance favors the prepared mind.)
To: facedown
ping
78 posted on
02/16/2003 6:25:17 AM PST by
sistergoldenhair
(Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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