Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
To: kattracks
The wickness was so great in the time of Noah that God sent a flood to destroy the people, and it seems like people are becoming like that now, so wicked that they do not deserve life. It is pitiful for man to sink so low.
2 posted on 02/07/2003 4:34:59 AM PST by tessalu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
How about a countersuit?
There are many potential charges on which to place the sponsors under legal scrutiny.
4 posted on 02/07/2003 4:46:52 AM PST by G Larry ($10K gifts to John Thune before he announces!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks; *Homosexual Agenda
The Gaystapo is incompatible with freedom.
7 posted on 02/07/2003 5:17:22 AM PST by FormerLib
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
Is there a way to help?
8 posted on 02/07/2003 5:27:36 AM PST by stevio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: scripter; *Homosexual Agenda
Ping
10 posted on 02/07/2003 5:59:52 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
This past week, Alan Keyes made a trip to Boston to speak on behalf of Camenker and Whiteman, as well as rally support for their cause.

Attention Keyes bashers.

You will know them by what they do

11 posted on 02/07/2003 6:01:27 AM PST by Aquinasfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
This is a reminder there is a cost to standing up and doing what is right........................something we should all be thinking about.
14 posted on 02/07/2003 6:08:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
Besides the moral outrage, there is the safety question.

Fisting is when you take your entire hand and put it into another person's rectum. The chances of injury are high. Here is a quote from a pro-fisting site:

The primary dangers of fisting are damage in and around the anal/vaginal opening. Minor damage can come in the form anal/ vaginal fissures which are tiny tears in the skin surrounding the anal/ vaginal opening, tenderness associated with the stretching of the openings and/or a lack of lubrication and bleeding caused when fissures occur. Severe damage is the actual tearing and ripping of the anal/vaginal muscles sometimes leading to incontinence (a loss of bowel retention/ control), usually caused by an over eager- ness to achieve full insertion of the fist without allowing the muscle tissue to relax and adjust. The severest form of damage are the inversion of the bowel, in which the bowel tears loose from the abdominal cavity and protrudes outside the anal opening and peritonitis, an infection caused by fecal material entering the sterile abdominal cavity through tears in the bowel walls. The death rate is well over 60% when this condition occurs as there are no nerve endings to tell you something is wrong.

I can't imagine a medical doctor in their right mind that would recommend this activity. How can we be teaching this activity to kids?

18 posted on 02/07/2003 6:15:19 AM PST by Brookhaven
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
And the same people who promote this Homosexualism are the same ones that say "we have to learn why the Muslim world hates us so much".
20 posted on 02/07/2003 6:30:03 AM PST by Guillermo (Sic 'Em)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Clint N. Suhks; L.N. Smithee; Buffalo Bob; Yakboy; ppaul; GrandMoM; yendu bwam; John O
Ping
22 posted on 02/07/2003 6:46:03 AM PST by EdReform (Can you spare a dime? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829652/posts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
If you already have a copy of this tape, listen to it again. If you don't have a copy of the free tape, go here and order it or listen to it online.

Then, send a few bucks to PRC.

I been down a bunch of roads. But this is truly the most disgusting thing I've ever come across.

28 posted on 02/07/2003 7:47:39 AM PST by upchuck (TSCG: The expanse of your intelligence is a void no universe could ever fill.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
"Loser pays" would help.
36 posted on 02/07/2003 8:26:53 AM PST by Protagoras
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
And just what are they being sued for? For recording a public meeting?

38 posted on 02/07/2003 8:36:00 AM PST by TexanToTheCore
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
For your consideration, edification (and violent regurgitation!), we present the newest PC BSA Merit Badge, introduced in California recently. Look for them in YOUR neighborhood soon:

The proposed RIMMING, SNORKLING and GERBIL STUFFING badges are still being designed and will be -- er -- OUT soon.


53 posted on 02/07/2003 1:24:12 PM PST by Dick Bachert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
I hate to say it but if I were this guy and I had lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group after I'd be practicing 3 sigma on them.
62 posted on 02/07/2003 1:48:13 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
What's next after "Fisting 101," "Gerbils 101?" You know gay guys put a gerbil in a toilet paper tube with duct tape and insert it into each other's anus and they enjoy the "pleasurable sensations" of the gerbil wiggling around inside their anus. Of course the gerbil often dies, so where's the outrage from PETA? Oh, perhaps a lot of PETA members are also gay, a little conflict of interest there, I guess? Once gay men stretch their anus so much that they can no longer control their bowels, they have to "plug" it up, with what is appropriately called a "butt plug." So don't ever slap a gay guy on the back, you might dislodge his butt plug. Gays often get a free pass from straight society because people just don't want to hear about these sick perversions, so they hide their heads in the sand. But when it comes to their kids, they better wake up.
71 posted on 02/07/2003 2:58:29 PM PST by Contra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
Seems to me that two can play that game.
Hasn't anybody sued (or counter-sued) the perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites who conducted this "fisting workshop"? Were there minors present, thereby inviting "corruption of minors" charges?

Or is there no such thing as "corruption of minors" in that sick toilet, Massachusetts?

76 posted on 02/07/2003 3:56:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
Our Nation's laws against homosexuality go back beyond it's founding. In every single civilized nation since the beginning of time, homosexuality was considered immoral, a crime against nature, and usually was a capital offense. Let's look at a few quotes:

"Homosexual conduct is, and has been, considered abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature and of nature's God upon which this Nation and our laws are predicated. Such conduct violates both the criminal and civil laws of this State and is destructive to a basic building block of society -- the family." ---- Chief Justice Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court in a decision denying custody of children to a lesbian mother.

The Corpus Juris Civilis is the sixth-century encyclopedic collection of Roman laws made under the sponsorship of Emperor Justinian. "It is Justinian's collection which served as the basis of canon law (the law of the Christian Church) and civil law (both European and English)."

The following is a statement in Law French from Corpus Juris: "'Sodomie est crime de majeste vers le Roy Celestre,' and [is] translated in a footnote as 'Sodomy is high treason against the King of Heaven.' At common law 'sodomy' and the phrase 'infamous crime against nature' were often used interchangeably."

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination." (KJV) Leviticus 18:22

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them."(KJV) Leviticus 20:13

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NASB)

"There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel." (KJV) Deuteronomy 23:17

No matter how much society appears to change, the law on this subject has remained steadfast from the earliest history of the law, and that law is and must be our law today. The common law designates homosexuality as an inherent evil... ---- Chief Justice Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court in a decision denying custody of children to a lesbian mother.

"The Constitution does not confer a fundamental right upon homosexuals to engage in sodomy. None of the fundamental rights announced in this Court's prior cases involving family relationships, marriage, or procreation bear any resemblance to the right asserted in this case. And any claim that those cases stand for the proposition that any kind of private sexual conduct between consenting adults is constitutionally insulated from state proscription is unsupportable. " The United States Supreme Court in BOWERS v. HARDWICK, 478 U.S. 186 (1986) 478 U.S. 186

Criminal sodomy laws in effect in 1791:

Connecticut: 1 Public Statute Laws of the State of Connecticut, 1808, Title LXVI, ch. 1, 2 (rev. 1672). Delaware: 1 Laws of the State of Delaware, 1797, ch. 22, 5 (passed 1719). Georgia had no criminal sodomy statute until 1816, but sodomy was a crime at common law, and the General Assembly adopted the common law of England as the law of Georgia in 1784. The First Laws of the State of Georgia, pt. 1, p. 290 (1981). Maryland had no criminal sodomy statute in 1791. Maryland's Declaration of Rights, passed in 1776, however, stated that "the inhabitants of Maryland are entitled to the common law of England," and sodomy was a crime at common law. 4 W. Swindler, Sources and Documents of United States Constitutions 372 (1975). Massachusetts: Acts and Laws passed by the General Court of Massachusetts, ch. 14, Act of Mar. 3, 1785. New Hampshire passed its first sodomy statute in 1718. Acts and Laws of New Hampshire 1680-1726, p. 141 (1978). Sodomy was a crime at common law in New Jersey at the time of the ratification of the Bill of Rights. The State enacted its first criminal sodomy law five years later. Acts of the Twentieth General Assembly, Mar. 18, 1796, ch. DC, 7. New York: Laws of New York, ch. 21 (passed 1787). [478 U.S. 186, 193] At the time of ratification of the Bill of Rights, North Carolina had adopted the English statute of Henry VIII outlawing sodomy. See Collection of the Statutes of the Parliament of England in Force in the State of North-Carolina, ch. 17, p. 314 (Martin ed. 1792). Pennsylvania: Laws of the Fourteenth General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, ch. CLIV, 2 (passed 1790). Rhode Island passed its first sodomy law in 1662. The Earliest Acts and Laws of the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations 1647-1719, p. 142 (1977). South Carolina: Public Laws of the State of South Carolina, p. 49 (1790). At the time of the ratification of the Bill of Rights, Virginia had no specific statute outlawing sodomy, but had adopted the English common law. 9 Hening's Laws of Virginia, ch. 5, 6, p. 127 (1821) (passed 1776).

Criminal sodomy statutes in effect in 1868:

Alabama: Ala. Rev. Code 3604 (1867). Arizona (Terr.): Howell Code, ch. 10, 48 (1865). Arkansas: Ark. Stat., ch. 51, Art. IV, 5 (1858). California: 1 Cal. Gen. Laws,  1450, 48 (1865). Colorado (Terr.): Colo. Rev. Stat., ch. 22, 45, 46 (1868). Connecticut: Conn. Gen. Stat., Tit. 122, ch. 7, 124 (1866). Delaware: Del. Rev. Stat., ch. 131, 7 (1893). Florida: Fla. Rev. Stat., div. 5, 2614 (passed 1868) (1892). Georgia: Ga. Code 4286, 4287, 4290 (1867). Kingdom of Hawaii: Haw. Penal Code, ch. 13, 11 (1869). Illinois: Ill. Rev. Stat., div. 5, 49, 50 (1845). Kansas (Terr.): Kan. Stat., ch. 53, 7 (1855). Kentucky: 1 Ky. Rev. Stat., ch. 28, Art. IV, 11 (1860). Louisiana: La. Rev. Stat., Crimes and Offences, 5 (1856). Maine: Me. Rev. Stat., Tit. XII, ch. 160, 4 (1840). Maryland: 1 Md. Code, Art. 30, 201 (1860). Massachusetts: Mass. Gen. Stat., ch. 165, 18 (1860). Michigan: Mich. Rev. Stat., Tit. 30, ch. 158, 16 (1846). Minnesota: Minn. Stat., ch. 96, 13 (1859). Mississippi: Miss. Rev. Code, ch. 64, LII, Art. 238 (1857). Missouri: 1 Mo. Rev. Stat., ch. 50, Art. VIII, 7 (1856). Montana (Terr.): Mont. Acts, Resolutions, Memorials, Criminal Practice Acts, ch. IV, 44 (1866). Nebraska (Terr.): Neb. Rev. Stat., Crim. Code, ch. 4, 47 (1866). [478 U.S. 186, 194] Nevada (Terr.): Nev. Comp. Laws, 1861-1900, Crimes and Punishments, 45. New Hampshire: N. H. Laws, Act. of June 19, 1812, 5 (1815). New Jersey: N. J. Rev. Stat., Tit. 8, ch. 1, 9 (1847). New York: 3 N. Y. Rev. Stat., pt. 4, ch. 1, Tit. 5, 20 (5th ed. 1859). North Carolina: N.C. Rev. Code, ch. 34, 6 (1855). Oregon: Laws of Ore., Crimes - Against Morality, etc., ch. 7, 655 (1874). Pennsylvania: Act of Mar. 31, 1860, 32, Pub. L. 392, in 1 Digest of Statute Law of Pa. 1700-1903, p. 1011 (Purdon 1905). Rhode Island: R. I. Gen. Stat., ch. 232, 12 (1872). South Carolina: Act of 1712, in 2 Stat. at Large of S. C. 1682-1716, p. 493 (1837). Tennessee: Tenn. Code, ch. 8, Art. 1, 4843 (1858). Texas: Tex. Rev. Stat., Tit. 10, ch. 5, Art. 342 (1887) (passed 1860). Vermont: Acts and Laws of the State of Vt. (1779). Virginia: Va. Code, ch. 149, 12 (1868). West Virginia: W. Va. Code, ch. 149, 12 (1868). Wisconsin (Terr.): Wis. Stat. 14, p. 367 (1839).

"Forasmuch as there is not yet sufficient and condign punishment appointed and limited by the due course of the Laws of this Realm for the detestable and abominable Vice of Buggery committed with mankind of beast: It may therefore please the King's Highness with the assent of the Lords Spiritual and the Commons of this present parliament assembled, that it may be enacted by the authority of the same, that the same offence be from henceforth ajudged Felony and that such an order and form of process therein to be used against the offenders as in cases of felony at the Common law. And that the offenders being herof convict by verdict confession or outlawry shall suffer such pains of death and losses and penalties of their good chattels debts lands tenements and hereditaments as felons do according to the Common Laws of this Realme. And that no person offending in any such offence shall be admitted to his Clergy, And that Justices of the Peace shall have power and authority within the limits of their commissions and Jurisdictions to hear and determine the said offence, as they do in the cases of other felonies. This Act to endure till the last day. of the next Parliament" Buggery act of England 1553

Britton, i.10: "Let enquiry also be made of those who feloniously in time of peace have burnt other's corn or houses, and those who are attainted thereof shall be burnt, so that they might be punished in like manner as they have offended. The same sentence shall be passed upon sorcerers, sorceresses, renegades, sodomists, and heretics publicly convicted" English law forbidding sodomy dating back to 1300AD.

These quotes are just a few of the many that are avaliable.

Now, why did these laws exist? Libertarians and other assorted liberal folk don't like any laws that protect society and prevent the moral decline of a nation's people. They are immoral people and they want to be free to be immoral.

What did our founders say about this? Way back in 1815, The Pennsylvania Supreme Court decided an important case, here are excerpts from that case:

This court is...invested with power to punish not only open violations of decency and morality, but also whatever secretly tends to undermine the principles of society... Whatever tends to the destruction of morality, in general, may be punishable criminally. Crimes are public offenses, not because they are perpetrated publically, but because their effect is to injure the public. Buglary, though done in secret, is a public offense; and secretly destroying fences is indictable.

Hence it follows, that an offense may be punishable, if in it's nature and by it's example, it tends to the corruption or morals; although it not be committed in public.

Although every immoral act, such as lying, ect... is not indictable, yet where the offense charged is destructive of morality in general...it is punishable at common law. The destruction of morality renders the power of government invalid...

No man is permitted to corrupt the morals of the people, secret poision cannot be thus desseminated.

Keep in mind now that the judges on this court had lived through the revolution and fought for the nation's survival. This was just a few years after the Constitution was Adopted. SO the libertarians who are going to scream that these judges didn't know what they were talking about are way off base. (They want you to think that your basic pot head knows more about the Constitution than the men who were actually there at the nation's founding.)

Now why did the court take that position? Simple, a Nation without morality cannot function. A nation that loses site on principle is doomed to go the way of the Roman Empire. Every single nation that has lost sight of basic moral principles has fallen. Homosexuality is anathema to morality. The two cannot exist together. Homosexuality is unnatural (no matter how much liberals will try to convince you otherwise.) And it is immoral. It cannot be tolerated period.

Homosexuality is immoral, Indecent, abhorant, and repugnant. It is a stain on our society, and must never ever be tolerated.

83 posted on 02/07/2003 5:08:29 PM PST by FF578 (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and His justice cannot sleep forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
I feel ill.

5.56mm

114 posted on 02/08/2003 3:13:20 PM PST by M Kehoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: kattracks
Simple fact: If this information was put out in a government funded, public school, then the information must be open for public discussion.

Simple.

Why the judge hasn't dismissed the case with prejudice is completely beyond me!

Mark
122 posted on 02/08/2003 7:45:42 PM PST by MarkL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson