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No more puffing near playgrounds -puffing within 25 feet of the swings and seesaws , $250 Fine (CA)
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Posted on 01/08/2003 4:54:26 AM PST by chance33_98



No more puffing near playgrounds

Max Whittaker/Appeal-Democrat

Rob Young Appeal-Democrat

Do you like taking a leisurely walk in the park while puffing on a cigarette, cigar or pipe?

Make sure you stay well away from any playgrounds. Under a new state law that took effect Jan. 1, puffing within 25 feet of the swings and seesaws can draw a fine up to $250. The law also prohibits smokers from intimidating anyone who complains about smoking within the buffer zone.

The change doesn't bother one smoker, Sonny Gerling of Redding, who was pushing his 4-year-old daughter Lillian in a swing Friday at Lloyd Park in Yuba City.

"I'm a smoker, and I think it's a good idea," Gerling said. "I don't smoke in a car or in the house when my daughter's with me, so why should I do it when I'm with her at the park?"

It was already illegal to smoke or discard smoking material on a playground. The new law tries to protect children's lungs even further by moving puffers out of the 25-foot buffer zone.

Gerling admitted he has occasionally smoked on playgrounds but said he makes sure he's away from children, sometimes retreating to a nearby sidewalk. The law does not include public sidewalks within the buffer zone.

Lillian's mother, Patricia A. Dahlke of Yuba City, also a smoker, was not as understanding about the buffer zone.

"They're more anal about smoking than they are drinking," Dahlke said about lawmakers. "As long as you're not leaving butts, it's not a problem."

Dahlke conceded, however, that smoking on the playground itself is not a good idea.

Nearby, a nonsmoker, June Graves of Yuba City, was sitting at a picnic table with her two children, Dillon, 6, and Abby, 7.

"It sounds good to me," Graves said about the new law. Keeping smokers 25 feet from children, even outdoors, is not unreasonable, she said.

"It protects my kids' health. And (smoking) looks nasty," Graves said.

"I could see 25 yards," she said. "A playground is for kids. They shouldn't have to smell cigarettes."

Elizabeth Neumayer, director of the Yuba City Parks and Recreation Department, said the city is "currently reviewing all options to assist with enforcement of the new law, including posting signs at all public parks."

The new law applies just to playgrounds, not to parks, she said.

The department "certainly advocates for healthy lifestyles," she said.

The new law shouldn't affect the Yuba City School Unified District, where a no smoking rule is already in effect on campuses with or without playgrounds, said Student Services Director Bob Kruse.

The same is true in the Marysville Joint Unified School District, which banned smoking on school grounds at least five years ago to discourage anyone from smoking outside of buildings, said district spokeswoman Jami Marros.

The law will serve as a reminder to parents not to smoke on school grounds, although failure to comply with the school rule has not been a problem, Marros said.

"There are times we do have to remind people, but it's never been a real issue," she said.


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: pufflist
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1 posted on 01/08/2003 4:54:26 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Between this and the cops busting drunks in bars, I'd say we're getting closer to Prohibition-Land everyday. What the heck, the more the merrier.
2 posted on 01/08/2003 4:57:28 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
So much more important than keeping track of the missing 30,000 sex perverts.
3 posted on 01/08/2003 5:02:04 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: chance33_98
Quick. More laws. More Laws. MORE LAWS!!! We're running out of crimes.
4 posted on 01/08/2003 5:04:07 AM PST by per loin
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To: Wolfie
Welcome to life under the Secular-Humanist Taliban, in a few years white men, smokers and the overweight will be forced to wear a burka anytime they go out in public.

Caught smoking in public? That six weeks re-education in your local Secular-Humanist Madrasa (DHHR office).
5 posted on 01/08/2003 5:06:09 AM PST by apillar
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To: chiefqc
So much more important than keeping track of the missing 30,000 sex perverts.

Exactly.....all eyes are on the lookout for smoke instead of those with their hands in their pockets.

6 posted on 01/08/2003 5:07:25 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (I still despise Halfbright)
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To: chance33_98
Meanwhile the world goes to hell. The great State of California should form its own country so we don't have to be embarrassed by the idiocy that they come up with. Then put a fence on the bordering states to keep the nuts isolated from normal people.
7 posted on 01/08/2003 5:08:14 AM PST by Raymond Hendrix
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To: apillar
Well, the prevailing attitude of our masters seems to be that anything that isn't completely harmless should be prohibited, so I'm sure they'll be plenty of new dangers ahead.
8 posted on 01/08/2003 5:08:23 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Raymond Hendrix
Meanwhile the world goes to hell.

Indeed, as this post shows all too clearly

9 posted on 01/08/2003 5:09:56 AM PST by chance33_98 (I refuse to type anything here)
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To: Wolfie
Speaking of Prohibition-Land, here's a few more comments from another article about this new law.

Repace (Jim Repace is a consultant on secondhand smoke.) said that research is beginning on the effects of secondhand smoke outside. At outdoor cafes and bars where customers are allowed to smoke, he said, servers may be exposed to significant amounts.

Another growing concern, he said, is multifamily dwellings, where smoke can waft between apartments through shafts and cracks in the walls.

He said he expects that places such as outdoor cafes will eventually be included in public smoking bans.

"That's something that will be done, probably in California first," he said.

And the beat goes on ....

10 posted on 01/08/2003 5:12:15 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: per loin
BAN GRAVITY!! We don't want the little darlings to hurt themselves.
11 posted on 01/08/2003 5:16:24 AM PST by Puppage
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To: apillar
Caught smoking in public? That six weeks re-education in your local Secular-Humanist Madrasa (DHHR office).

Good idea! Six weeks of me would be more than enough to push most of these wussies over the edge to suicide.

12 posted on 01/08/2003 5:17:35 AM PST by metesky
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To: Puppage
Meanwhile, the Peoples Republic of Boulder is also working on new ideas.

BOULDER ERRORS

Make Crossroads non-smoking park

As a former Boulder County resident, I try to stay current with news from Boulder and Longmont. I read with interest that the Crossroads Mall is in trouble. I remember when that was the "in" place to shop, and I'm sorry to see that it is having problems.

But a solution might be: How about we make it a non-smoking parking lot and refuge for prairie dogs? Or just a non-smoking park? The list can go on. Kidding aside, things seem to get too extreme and stop being funny. Boulder will determine the future. I just hope it isn't catching.

PAT MAHER, Grand Junction

13 posted on 01/08/2003 5:38:27 AM PST by cibco
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To: DumpsterDiver
"Repace (Jim Repace is a consultant on secondhand smoke.)"

A consultant on secondhand smoke? I guess if you won't work for a living you either depend on the dimoRATS or you make up a looney problem and become a consultant.
14 posted on 01/08/2003 6:00:03 AM PST by sticker
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To: SheLion; *puff_list
ping
15 posted on 01/08/2003 6:16:49 AM PST by chance33_98 (Rights sliding away one by one has the same result of them going all at once, only slower)
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To: sticker
I did a search at Google and Repace has been active in the anti-tobacco/second-hand smoke campaign since at least 1985. This Highlights of Tobacco History web page mentions him.
16 posted on 01/08/2003 6:24:02 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: chance33_98
Did anybody else get a little chill/shiver up the spine when they read the line about "prohibiting smokers from intimidating anyone who complains about smoking in buffer zones?"

Notice that the person who complains is exercising their right to take note of a violation of law, but the smoker to which the complaint is directed is (implicitly at least) not allowed to respond lest he or she be guilty of 'intimidation.' It's classic liberal double-speak. Free speech is only free to them, not to those who may dissent.

17 posted on 01/08/2003 6:30:16 AM PST by Treebeard
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To: chance33_98
Hi chance!

I am SO very thankful our kid is grown and we don't have to hang ANYwhere near a kid today! Don't want it don't need it.


18 posted on 01/08/2003 6:30:21 AM PST by SheLion
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To: chiefqc
So much more important than keeping track of the missing 30,000 sex perverts.

Exactly. Pedophiles are allowed to sit close by the kiddies, but my Gawd! Don't you dare smoke!

19 posted on 01/08/2003 6:31:45 AM PST by SheLion
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To: chance33_98; *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; ...
Let me Puff and Ping!
20 posted on 01/08/2003 6:32:57 AM PST by SheLion
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