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To: JoshGray
So, absent any evidence...

Um, how much evidence do you need to see that the boy is outside of the norm of sexual identity?

...we slap the kid into therapy...

Translation: we try to help the kid.

...and tell him how screwed up he is...

Gee, I missed the part of the article where the researchers told the kid that. Could you reference it for me?

...and tell the family how rotten the parents are?

Parenting is a learned skill. Constructive criticism is an essential part of learning and there's a lot more to it that just telling someone they're rotten.

16 posted on 12/12/2002 6:53:30 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
That's not the evidence I was talking about and you know it. WHY is the kid "outside of the norm of sexual identity"? Obviously, Nicolosi seems to know: "Most pre-homosexual children have distant or strained relationships with their parents, he says, but the father-son relationship is especially crucial for a boy's developing sexual identity." Where's his evidence that the chicken came first - is the identify because of the strain, or is the strain because of the identity? You just told me that the psyche is too complex for such disagnoses, but here he's making it.

Translation: we try to help the kid.

Try Ritalin.

Could you reference it for me?

It's simple, really -- kids who aren't screwed-up don't need 'therapy'. Or Ritalin.

Constructive criticism is an essential part of learning and there's a lot more to it that just telling someone they're rotten.

And what happens, after all this baseless therapy, when the kid's starting a gay-les group in school? It's the parents' fault his is this way, after all. At what point do they become rotten parents because their kid is gay? Even NARTH admits that some of their successes are celibate rather than any true change in orientation -- the 'stop it or you'll go blind' treament.

(Libs are just trying to 'help the kid' when they dope the kid up on Ritalin instead of figuring out what's really going on.)

19 posted on 12/12/2002 7:14:09 AM PST by JoshGray
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