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That's not the evidence I was talking about and you know it. WHY is the kid "outside of the norm of sexual identity"? Obviously, Nicolosi seems to know: "Most pre-homosexual children have distant or strained relationships with their parents, he says, but the father-son relationship is especially crucial for a boy's developing sexual identity." Where's his evidence that the chicken came first - is the identify because of the strain, or is the strain because of the identity? You just told me that the psyche is too complex for such disagnoses, but here he's making it.

Translation: we try to help the kid.

Try Ritalin.

Could you reference it for me?

It's simple, really -- kids who aren't screwed-up don't need 'therapy'. Or Ritalin.

Constructive criticism is an essential part of learning and there's a lot more to it that just telling someone they're rotten.

And what happens, after all this baseless therapy, when the kid's starting a gay-les group in school? It's the parents' fault his is this way, after all. At what point do they become rotten parents because their kid is gay? Even NARTH admits that some of their successes are celibate rather than any true change in orientation -- the 'stop it or you'll go blind' treament.

(Libs are just trying to 'help the kid' when they dope the kid up on Ritalin instead of figuring out what's really going on.)

It's simple, really -- kids who aren't screwed-up don't need 'therapy'.

Agreed. Kids who function outside of their sexual identity, however, do require help. It's good to see that someone is making sure that the get the help they need.

Even NARTH admits that some of their successes are celibate rather than any true change in orientation...

Like when alcoholics quit drinking ANY alcohol. Anyway, giving up the perverted behavior is a true change. "Orientation" is a myth, it's all a choice.

...the 'stop it or you'll go blind' treament.

More like the 'stop it before you get AIDS or rectal cancer and die' treament, AKA a dose of reality!