Thank you, Max. Sure pick up a lot of hate in here.She, I thumped back a little till I got the young lads attention then fed him some facts and figures and made him think.
I don't think we can ever expect his support but maybe he won't be quite so vehement. Especially at the first part of a thread.
I am all for a good debate on the smoking issue. But when someone comes in, and just because they hate smokers and smoking, and bash, trash and flame us, I won't put up with it.
They call me dirty, nasty, evil, uneducated, filthy, stinky and low class because I choose to smoke a legal product that has been on the market for over a hundred years.
I won't put up with this. There is no reason for these personal horrible attacks on another human being just because we do not see eye-to-eye on something.
A newbie comes in, states their piece that they hate us, hates smoking, and leaves, so be it. But to sit in here and continually trash us is totally uncalled for.
What is good for them is not good for me and what is good for me is not good for them. That is how the world has always turned. Live and let live. But the ones that come in just to dump on us, have tunnel vision and blinders, their way or no way is not OUR way!
Some of us try to work through reason. I have seen it work. But it takes thousands of typed words to make it happen. It's all good.
On the other hand, most of us know that there are Anti's in here that intentionally come in to flame us and to egg us on. There is NO reasoning with these people. We all know it.
We present them with the truth. If it isn't THEIR truth, it is not true. Ok! I did my preaching to the choir.
Bring on the DEBATE! 
Joe, you did good. I was just out of patience for the day and needed to vent, I guess. All the information needed can be found right here in previous conversations, but shoot-from-the-lip antis can't be bothered to dig for it.
She, I thumped back a little till I got the young lads attention then fed him some facts and figures and made him think. I don't think we can ever expect his support but maybe he won't be quite so vehement. Especially at the first part of a thread.Joe, I don't think you got his attention as much as I think he needed a little respectability, you were his chance to appear somewhat reasonable.
If he had in mind to have a good debate, he would have behaved better from the start, in my book the little whipper snipper is a rude know-it-all.