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DOWNTOWN LA FREEP REPORT: The Big Debate

Posted on 10/07/2002 2:08:52 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

Various crowds were swarming the LA Times building downtown when I arrived-- the Green Party crowd was surprisingly large, and ticked off because Peter Camejo, their candidate, had attempted to enter the building to join the debate, but had been turned away by the LA Times people. It had been reported yesterday that Joe Davis threatened to boycott the one and only debate he has agreed to if the Green Party candidate participated. Crybaby.

Anyway, people were shouting and thrusting signs in front of t.v. reporters. RonDog was there in the eGray hooker get up and Outraged was in his Superman suit with a great sign of Bill Simon opening his shirt to reveal the big "S".

At the last Freep I was at, a few union men showed up an hour into our little protest to stand around with printed Davis signs. This time, men and women from a few different unions made quite a showing with the printed signs, bullhorns, and the NIGHTMARISH chant: "FOUR MORE YEARS!" One union lady nut was screeching "Davis creates jobs!" Yeah, if your union pays him enough.

The chicken guy was there and got a lot of attention from the media. (I was interviewed by La Opinion so for those of you who read the Spanish language paper, keep your eyes out for that.)

After the protest most people dispersed to go watch the debate. We went to a hotel down the block and watched it on t.v. with some Green Party people.

Want my honest opinion of how Bill Simon did? Actually, he surprised me. HE KICKED JOE DAVIS' @SS! The one hour debate, moderated by Hal Fishman, showcased what a snake Joe Davis is, gave Simon the opportunity to ask straight out: "Hey Joe, ever raise money for your campaign in the governor's office, which is totally illegal?" to which Joe WOULD NOT answer yes or no, but skirted and snaked all over the place and looked like CRAP doing it.

THAT'S RIGHT: Simon also looked WAY BETTER.

He really blew me away. I've met him briefly before and heard him speak and thought he was nice and sincere, but the gloves came off in this debate and he verbally punched Joe Davis in his heavily made up face several times.


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Anyway, I hope the rest of the Freepers check in with their personal thoughts and views on the protest and debate.
1 posted on 10/07/2002 2:08:52 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
CHICKEN GUY!
CHICKEN GUY!
CHICKEN GUY!

AFRAID OF DEBATE!
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NOW WE KNOW WHY!

(Uhmm...Davis sucked...)

GO SIMON! RALLY RALLY RALLY !!!

2 posted on 10/07/2002 2:15:56 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: kellynla; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; Gophack
Any other opinions on today's debate?

BTW, Norm. Thanks for the running thread!

3 posted on 10/07/2002 2:17:56 PM PDT by Coop
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Thanks for the report and representing us at the FReep.
4 posted on 10/07/2002 2:18:18 PM PDT by Coop
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Very good report. Thank you.
5 posted on 10/07/2002 2:20:06 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: hapsgroupie
Pings to ya!
6 posted on 10/07/2002 2:24:58 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Thanks for your effort.
7 posted on 10/07/2002 2:25:06 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Isn't it annoying how Gray Davis is always finding ways for his party to tax you more and more?


8 posted on 10/07/2002 2:25:47 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: Cinnamon Girl
You all did GREAT!!!!!
9 posted on 10/07/2002 2:25:50 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Coop
I had to tape the debate. Once I get the opportunity to watch it I will put my two cents in...Sounds like Simon did a respectable job...Too bad it wasn't prime time...
10 posted on 10/07/2002 2:26:24 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: Coop
We Ain't Done Yet Either ... Check Out Simon and Davis trade charges in first televised debate wheww!
11 posted on 10/07/2002 2:30:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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GO SIMON

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Tom McClintock for CA State Controller



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12 posted on 10/07/2002 2:31:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Thanks for being there Cinnamon. I was stuck at work today, but got to listen to the debate online. I thought Simon was fantastic and reading the transcipt confirmed it.

How did you guys get along with the Greens?

13 posted on 10/07/2002 2:38:21 PM PDT by Feiny
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Here is the Link to the transcript....part of it anyway.
14 posted on 10/07/2002 2:40:14 PM PDT by Feiny
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To: Cinnamon Girl
"One union lady nut was screeching "Davis creates jobs!"

She is right. He's added 45,000 to the state government ranks since he's been in office. Boy, the gov. workers unions just love that.
15 posted on 10/07/2002 2:42:27 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Davis looked drunk....and his shirt didn't fit him. (oh and Bill kicked butt).
16 posted on 10/07/2002 2:42:28 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: feinswinesuksass
I liked the Greens and as far as I could tell, we were all getting along fine. It was just the angry, aggressive Davis union workers we didn't enjoy. They have quite a nice set up, getting paid by their unions to show up at these protests and muscle everyone.
17 posted on 10/07/2002 2:43:23 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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Davis looked drunk

Who's Davis? That name sorta rings a bell......

18 posted on 10/07/2002 2:44:21 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Ask Davis to send his Democrat thugs from the Longshoremen's union back to work. The Longshoremen's Union and the Gov't Workers' Union are domestic terrorists.
19 posted on 10/07/2002 2:54:18 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I went to a website that generate automatic complaint letters and plugged in the name Gray Davis. Here is the letter:

I'm not an activist, and I'm not a cynic. I'm just a person who wants to stick to the facts and offer only those arguments that can be supported by those facts. So, without further ado, I present you with this all-important piece of information: Gov. Joe Gray Davis insists that space aliens are out to lay eggs in our innards or ooze their alien hell-slime all over us. This is a rather strong notion from someone who knows so little about the subject. We live in incoherent times -- and Gov. Davis knows it. Without a doubt, however, his annoying, filthy personal attacks terrorize our youngsters. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to point out the glaring contradiction between his idealized view of communism and reality. Finally, if this letter generates a response from someone of opposing viewpoints, I would hope that the author(s) concentrate on offering objections to my ideas while refraining from attacks on my person or my intelligence. I've gotten enough of that already from Gov. Joe Gray Davis.

Then I asked for a 2 paragraph letter:

I've got a bone to pick with Gov. Joe Gray Davis. What follows is a series of remarks addressed to the readers of this letter and to Gov. Davis himself. The question, therefore, must not be, "To what depths of depravity does he need to descend before the rest of us realize we must improve the living conditions of the most vulnerable in our society -- the sick, the old, the disabled, the unemployed, and our youth -- all of whose lives are made miserable by Joe Gray Davis?", but rather, "In view of his jejune vaporings, what does it make sense for us to do now?". The latter question is the better one to ask, because his comrades have learned their scripts well, and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation. Would he like it if I were bumptious and self-satisfied, too? I don't think so.

I must emphasize that we find among narrow and uneducated minds the belief that he can change his vindictive ways. This belief is due to a basic confusion, which can be cleared up simply by stating that if one believes statements like, "Gov. Davis defends the real needs of the working class," one is, in effect, supporting unstable braggadocios (also known as Gov. Davis's bedfellows). How many of his adulators are content to sit around doing absolutely nothing to contribute to the world around them? I'd hazard to guess that the number is pretty high. I had thought the world was free of meddlesome, truculent grizzlers. So imagine my surprise when I discovered that Gov. Davis wants to utilize legal, above-ground organizing in combination with illegal, underground tactics to woo over improvident, unruly know-nothings by using tactics such as scapegoating, reductionist and simplistic solutions, demagoguery, and a conspiracy theory of history. Given the tenor of our times, I'll tell you what we need to do about all the craziness he is mongering. We need to force him into early retirement. I would like to close by saying that Gov. Joe Gray Davis's inability to fathom what I am talking about is betrayed by his insistence that this is the best of all possible worlds and that he is the best of all possible people.

20 posted on 10/07/2002 3:01:57 PM PDT by Feiny
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