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To: marron
US conservatives are not "right wing". They are not part of the totalitarian continuum.

Well, I agree, but there are those who call themselves 'conservative' who really get off on the idea of government beating up on people they dislike but are too cowardly to beat up on themselves; or who want the government to implement a 'Christian' society, or to forcefully bring back a 'Norman Rockwell' America that never existed in the first place.

These folks, with their authoritarian visions of government force as good, incline to totalitarianism. The conservative movement harms itself by tolerating their misuse of our word.

5 posted on 10/04/2002 12:09:58 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Grut
I think you are a bit out of line and seemed to be exaggerating the wish to see the unconstitutional assaults on school prayer, the ten commandments, and recently the pledge to make it into some sort of advocacy of the government to christianize everyone. Seeing how you were to vague, it is too difficult to discern from your comment what was meant by your comment.
9 posted on 10/04/2002 12:46:38 PM PDT by Republican_Strategist
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To: Grut
Well, I agree, but there are those who call themselves 'conservative' who really get off on the idea of government beating up on people they dislike but are too cowardly to beat up on themselves; or who want the government to implement a 'Christian' society, or to forcefully bring back a 'Norman Rockwell' America that never existed in the first place.

You have an immensely vivid imagination. It is no more rooted to the reality of Evangelical Christians than Hillary Clinton's mad muttering about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

50 posted on 10/07/2002 6:53:59 AM PDT by ffrancone
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To: Grut
I think you would really be scared of some of the laws that were on the books in the 19th, 18th century in America. Yet laws against homosexuality, against swearing, against bigamy, against public consumption of liquor survived and somehow the republic of America did not end. You might call those laws 'implementing a Christian society' but that simply shows your ignorance of Christianity. (Laws cannot save -- that's one of the fundamental truths of Christianity. So how can obeying a law make one more or less Christian? Uhm...) Laws raise the bar on what is acceptable public behavior. We have let the bar slip low and then wonder why our nation is in chaos.
54 posted on 10/07/2002 6:27:21 PM PDT by =Intervention=
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To: Grut
"...there are those who call themselves 'conservative' who really get off on the idea of government beating up on people they dislike but are too cowardly to beat up on themselves; or who want the government to implement a 'Christian' society, or to forcefully bring back a 'Norman Rockwell' America that never existed in the first place. "

Maybe you can list some real examples of these conservatives?

59 posted on 10/07/2002 6:39:11 PM PDT by HighWheeler
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