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To: Just another Joe
OF COURSE emphysema is CAUSED by first hand smoke, glad to know you are aware of that, but it is aggravated by 2nd hand smoke.

You obviously don't understand allergies & the part they play in asthma. A person is born with the tendancy to become allergic to the things that they encounter in their life. Nothing much you can do about that, its your genes. As the person encounters allergens the allergic reactions will *develop*. In the cases of my brother & me, it was cigarette smoke. Our father came back from WW2 a smoker & my mother soon joined him. My brother & I soon were both asthmatic children that lasted until we left home. Now neither of us have asthma attacks unless we are subjected to smoke. I have other allergies but *nothing* else causes me to have asthma other than tobacco smoke, with cigars being the worst.

As far as me having to start my own smoke free business, it looks like that won't be necessary. As it has been pointed out to you on this thread, things are going my way & it looks like smokers are 'sh*t outta luck'. (Heads up Joe, I've told you all this before)
419 posted on 10/05/2002 8:27:40 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter; Just another Joe
As far as me having to start my own smoke free business, it looks like that won't be necessary. As it has been pointed out to you on this thread, things are going my way & it looks like smokers are 'sh*t outta luck'. (Heads up Joe, I've told you all this before)

If we have a lot of people coming from the wrong end of the GENE pool, then I guess we MIGHT be sh*t out of luck!

425 posted on 10/05/2002 9:39:46 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Ditter
OF COURSE emphysema is CAUSED by first hand smoke, glad to know you are aware of that, but it is aggravated by 2nd hand smoke.

Then in the context of ETS emphysema is a pre-existing condition.
And it should be emphytsema CAN be caused by first hand smoke, not IS caused by first hand smoke.

As the person encounters allergens the allergic reactions will *develop*.

Then it's not asthma but the allergy that is the pre-existing condition. You and your brother may BE allergic to tobacco smoke but, if so, you are in the minority.
For almost every other anti-smoker I have heard about it is a matter of annoyance.
"I have to take a shower and wash my clothes every time I go to a bar."
"I hate the smell of smoke"
On and on and on.

As it has been pointed out to you on this thread, things are going my way & it looks like smokers are 'sh*t outta luck'.

Not quite yet but you are correct that it is headed that way.
Are you happy that totalitarian govt is that much closer?

429 posted on 10/05/2002 12:04:50 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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