IF THEY WEREN'T SERIOUS, THIS WOULD BE HYSTERICAL

The Cigar Show ^ | 2 October 2002 | Chuck Cason

[SheLion]

You are pathetic, you should move to Russia...... oh, I forgot, they have freedom now.

Keeps coming our of their box. To bash, trash and condemn us. Boy! Can you imagine the habits that this person has that WE WOULD FIND OFFENSIVE? ack!

And we wonder why are party is falling apart.

[SheLion]

This is in part, the reason the suburbs in the Houston and Dallas area are booming. Normal, well adjusted people move out.

There is a proposed smoking ban in MN. One big business is threatening to MOVE out if this passes. At least one BOSS is sticking up for his workers! It's all insane.

The health fascists are trying to take over America. Mind boggling.

[freeeee]

I want drug addicts kept out of public places

Public places? You mean city streets, and City Hall?

Restaurants, bars, etc... are not public places. They are privately owned. Yes, someone paid their hard earned money to purchase or build one. You have no more right to dictate to them what they allow on their property than they do forcing you to allow smoking in your living room.

Lately we've had the legal abomination of "public accommodation", which is an end run around private property rights. Essentially, it says that if a standing invitation to enter exists to the general public, then somehow the owner doesn't quite own his own property anymore. And that the guests the owner allows on his property somehow, magically can tell him how its going to be.

Well, there is already a word for semi-private ownership coupled by government directives, and never ever forget what it is - FASCISM.

[maxwell]

Well I am heartily dismayed to see this, chickie, 'cause I had designs on moving down to Dallas area next year... Hmmmmm... No smoking in any bar??? Even "Dick's Last Resort"??? AUUUUUGGGGGHHHH!!!

I thought them Texicans had more sense...

[Joe Hadenuf]

Get out of Texas as fast as you can......

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

I consider myself a sensible person, not because I don't smoke, have never smoked, can't stand to be around smoke and try not to ever smell cigarette smoke.

I consider myself sensible because I don't get mad if I go out (once every 4 years) to a bar and somebody is smoking. It is abar for heaven's sake.

You don't move in to a house next door to a smelter and then complain it smells funny in your neighborhood. And if I sitting on an outside patio eating lunch at work I don't expet every smoker to snuff out their cigarettes. All I do is if I was there before them I wish they would ask if it would bother me and if the wind is blowing towards me we can switch tables.

Somehow those easy solutions escape the smoking Nazis and some militant smokers are so tired of getting stepped on if you ask them to switch seats with you then get all bent out of shape.

It's just simple common sense/ common courtesy

[freeeee]

Your common sense is refreshing, if rare.

I agree with your approach, and I'm also a non-smoker.

[bonfire]

Incredibly, TX is now a P.C. state. Who woulda' thunk it?

[Protagoras]

Smoking tobacco (or pot) ought to be legal in one's home and a jailable offense outside it.

Only someone who has the mistaken idea that they have a right to tell someone else what rules to make for the use of their private property would make such a comment. The home and the business place share the same property rights.

Anyone who suggests otherwise should be jailed. It should be a jailable offence.

[maxwell]

It is abar for heaven's sake.

Thank you. You, sir, are a reasonable man. I will switch tables with you ANY day.

[Protagoras]

oops ,,,offence = offense

[alaskanfan]

It's just simple common sense/ common courtesy

A concept that is totally foreign to the pc social engineers so common in todays society.

Next they will determine that eating red meat should be banned.....ad infinitum

[freeeee]

Anyone who suggests otherwise should be jailed.

Not to nitpick, but I wouldn't jail them for merely suggesting such a thing. Freedom of speech, and petition of redress...

But actually doing it, on the other hand should get you that favorite of punishments - stuck in a hot, small dark room with a box of cheap stogies and you don't come out till you've smoked every last one to the stub. That'll learn 'em.

[cibco]

"Smoking tobacco (or pot) ought to be legal in one's home and a jailable offense outside it."

Your opinion ought to be legal in your own home and jailable outside it. Don't foul the air for the rest of us.

[Snuffington]

I want drug addicts kept out of public places, lest they corrupt my children or injure my own health. Smoking tobacco (or pot) ought to be legal in one's home and a jailable offense outside it. We can never get rid of drug addicts but at least we can keep them where they belong, out of the view and airspace of decent society.

I'm curious about your position on alchol consumption in restaurants. Or MSG laden french fries?

Do you consistently apply this standard? Or are you simply trying to get the force of government to enforce your personal preference?

[unixfox]

[Protagoras]

Not to nitpick, but I wouldn't jail them for merely suggesting such a thing. Freedom of speech, and petition of redress...

I keep forgetting to include the < /sarcam> tag line. Second time I have been called on it this week. :-)

[SheLion]

I thought them Texicans had more sense...

Texas has been pretty quiet of late. But being in the pocket of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation......well, Texas health fanactics must have been pounced on because they weren't controlling, restricting, banning and taxing the smokers enough. Got to keep those big grants coming IN you know!

Look how much RWJ Foundation is feeding into Texas:

Baylor College of Medicine
Houston,TX
Tobacco segment of a biennial symposium on minorities, the medically underserved, and cancer
1 year, ending 09/30/02 $40,000 ID#042887

Texas Congress of Parent-Teachers Association
Austin,TX
SmokeLess States: National Tobacco Policy Initiative
3 years, ending 05/31/04 $1,087,519 ID#041931

University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston
Houston,TX
Efficacy of motivational enhancement and physiologic for prenatal smoking cessation
4 years, ending 09/30/04 $944,148 ID#040674

And this isn't including the money from the Tobacco Settlement!!!

TEXAS SMOKERS' CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STATE ECONOMY - 2001

Check out what the smokers in Texas are paying into the economy! And the HEALTH FASCISTS want to kick them in the butt!

[SheLion]

It's just simple common sense/ common courtesy

Your a NON smoker. Not an ANTI smoker. There is one huge difference!!! Thank you for your tolerance of your fellow man. We need more like you!

[Tango Whiskey Papa]

Boy, would Sir Winston need a "good belt" of scotch this day and time.

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"My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them." Sir Winston Churchill