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"We have veterans here who made it onto Omaha Beach on D-Day," Fulgoni said. "You going to tell them that they can't smoke?"

It's all about youth.  What about all the "oldies" who have smoked all their lives and are still walking the face of the earth?  What happens to "their" theories then about smoking and second hand smoke?  How come smoking and SHS hasn't killed off all the old folks yet?  Something doesn't pass the smell test with their junk science.

Word of the ban's extension to private clubs has been seeping out slowly, mostly as bar owners have met with city officials to analyze the legislation's fine print.

This is how everyone got into this mess.  The planning document was kept under wraps until the last minute, so no one could fight the ban.  And those that DID know about the pending ban, never thought it could happen to them.  So, they went about their merry way until the day came for the ban, and they discovered that they are also, included.  TOO LATE.

"I knew going in that would happen," said Oddo, one of the bill's chief sponsors. "But you can't argue with the science. The bottom line is that these are all employees who are being subjected to a dangerous situation."

~sigh..........If it is so dangerous, how did any of us live to be as old as we are? I guess all these lawmakers are saying that the Government's own Laboratory committed Scientific FRAUD when they researched the second hand smoke issue, and said it is not a killer.

And I guess they think Judge Osteen of the Federal Court is a fraud as well, since he threw out the EPA's study on second hand smoke.......

Federal Court Rules Against EPA on Secondhand Smoke

Oak Ridge Labs & Second Hand Smoke  

21 posted on 09/24/2002 6:47:31 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
This is how everyone got into this mess. The planning document was kept under wraps until the last minute, so no one could fight the ban. And those that DID know about the pending ban, never thought it could happen to them. So, they went about their merry way until the day came for the ban, and they discovered that they are also, included. TOO LATE.

Very similar to what happened here in Delaware in May. Bars had been exempt all along, but as the House started debating the measure a last minute amendment came in that pulled that exemption. That was on Thursday and the Senate sponsor set a Senate debate date for 3 weeks later. So we started getting the bar owners together. openned Saturday's paper and the enate Pro Tem had announced it was scheduled for Tuesday.

We had 3 days notice - that was it.

at least the Veteran's groups and other fraternal groups (Elks, Moose, etc) are exempt IF they are holding a fund raiser or private function. Memberships in all of these groups has SYROCKETED and the ban doesn't take effect until November.

Additionally, restaurants all over the state are reporting cancellation of bookings for parties during the Holidays, and the lodges and Fire Halls are all seeing record bookings for parties.

29 posted on 09/24/2002 7:34:02 AM PDT by Gabz
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