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To: hobbes1
Hmmmm....Private Money, reducing states Medical burdens, and your problem with this is what exactly?

That old crock has been debunked so many times it's due for an oil change. If that's the only reason you think what others do is any of your business, you'd better start looking for a new hobby. 

"The lifetime health cost for a smoking man is $72,700 and $94,700 for a smoking woman. For nonsmokers, the cost is $83,400 for a man; $111,000 for a woman.

"If people stopped smoking today, there would be a savings in health care costs, but only in the short term. Eventually, smoking cessation would lead to increased health care costs." --New England Journal of Medicine,1997;337:1052-7.

I don't suppose all you hypocritical bastards are giving up your MICROSOFT pcs because the Gates Foundation is one of Planned Parenthoods biggest suporters....But then again, ripping the unborn screaming from the womb is different than not being allowed to ingest a little nicotine in a hospital...

IF abortion is so important to you, why don't you write to old RWJ and ask him why he isn't spending this money on THAT?  Why waste all this money on the smokers when saving baby's is MUCH more important ANY day!  How about that? 

(You call me a bastard one more time I am turning you in for abuse).

33 posted on 09/18/2002 7:05:05 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Guess that means your using Windows...LOL
34 posted on 09/18/2002 7:06:52 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: SheLion
(You call me a bastard one more time I am turning you in for abuse).

But its Ok for you to join in in malignig VRWCminons wife, bc of a joke he made? I guess the Hypocrite part was right on.

Oh yeah, and PS....

If people stopped smoking today, there would be a savings in health care costs, but only in the short term. Eventually, smoking cessation would lead to increased health care costs." --New England Journal of Medicine,1997;337:1052-7.

That is true for anything that increases longevity, so should society now sponsor things that reduce the average lifespan, so should society now sponsor all manner of things that reduce life expectancy? That argument is so ridiculous, it is beneath ridicule.

35 posted on 09/18/2002 7:11:25 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: SheLion
And Still Further... That old crock has been debunked so many times it's due for an oil change. If that's the only reason you think what others do is any of your business, you'd better start looking for a new hobby. "The lifetime health cost for a smoking man is $72,700 and $94,700 for a smoking woman. For nonsmokers, the cost is $83,400 for a man; $111,000 for a woman.

I was meaning specifically, that by decreasing Hiospitals needs for money, they would be less likely to be burdening taxpayers for more, weather it be in the form of tax breaks, incentives, grants, or loosening of regulations.

Not to mention that this whole thread is a half-a$$ed misrepresentation. I went to the website and clicked on the substance abuse/tobacco box. and what it reveals really, is PRIVATE MONEY, going to other PRIVATE GROUPS....AMA, ACS etc, for activities such as education and lobbying...as to the latter,IIRC and I am sure I do, that is a protected form of political speech....

Look, I hate to see the State using Nefarious methods to regulate legal products out of use/existence, but This is not that.

36 posted on 09/18/2002 7:27:23 AM PDT by hobbes1
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