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Smoke tax burns stores
New York Daily News ^ | September 1, 2002 | HANNAN ADELY

Posted on 09/01/2002 5:46:10 AM PDT by sarcasm

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To: SheLion
This attempt by Bloomy to change the entire sales structure of convience stores seems to be working.

Social engineering using taxation. Bloomy has one term to socialize as much of NYC as possible before the voters toss him on his arse. So "smoke 'em if ya got 'em" is being changed to "smoke 'em if you can afford 'em". And it doesn't seem like he's worried about losing a few thousand small business to the burbs. He'll be out of office long before the tax money runs out.

21 posted on 09/01/2002 7:52:57 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: CIB-173RDABN
I blame the tobacco industry. When the first ban on advertising on television was proposed they should have fought it to the bitter end. They never should have given in. That was the first step.

Big Tobacco sold us out.  And the liquor industry has so many ads on TV and with the YOUTH no less. 

Also, you hear the anti-smokers yelling that Big Tobacco is still advertising to our youth! WHERE?  And in magazines, it takes TWO!  It's the EDITOR who is taking Big T's money and putting the ads in the magazines.  Big T isn't holding a GUN to his head!  But yet, the anti's are blaming Big T............

The next step was the no smoking areas in restaurants. This should have been fought, but again, they gave in.

The restaurant owners thought it couldn't happen to them. Well....it DID happen.  Now we see more restaurant and bar owners standing up and fighting this.  It should be up to them, NOT big GOVERNMENT!

I do not see this battle as a "smoking" issue, but as a freedom issue.

THANK you!

There is many layers to this.  Too much to go into here.  It's all about power and MONEY.

22 posted on 09/01/2002 7:56:26 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Jose Martinez, 26, drives up the street to an Amoco service station in Mount Vernon, where he pays $5.50 a pack. The trip saves him about $10 a week on his pack-a-day Newport habit.
Jose Martinez is not saving $10 dollars a week. He's spending about $25 dollars a week more than he would if he bought his smokes online.

He'd spend even less if he "stuffed his own" cigarettes.

Wake-up and smell the taxes, Jose.

23 posted on 09/01/2002 8:05:55 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: SheLion
"Happy and safe Labor Day week-end everyone!"
Same to you and yours, SheLion!
24 posted on 09/01/2002 8:09:27 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: JoeSixPack1
He'll be out of office long before the tax money runs out.

Pity. Just like here in Maine. Governor King, Independent, is leaving in January. Running tail back to VA after he spent "8" years running Maine's budget into the ground.

Well, Bloomingidiot is going to leave the New Yorkers feeling like this:


25 posted on 09/01/2002 8:09:51 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: KS Flyover
Wake-up and smell the taxes, Jose

WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!

 

  

For under $8 dollars.....a beautiful carton of cigarettes!!!!!

 

26 posted on 09/01/2002 8:15:04 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: KS Flyover
Same to you and yours, SheLion!

Thanks KS HONEY! Same to you!


27 posted on 09/01/2002 8:18:11 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Looks like a huge profit potential to me. Lets black market cigarettes. I can get a carton in Missouri for 25 Bucks still. Take it to New york and sell for 50 bucks a carton! Better yet, wonder how many cigarette trucks are getting hijacked? Think of the profit!! This sounds as lucrative as selling crack cocaine. And government gets no tax. They don't get their cut off the top. What a shame.... what a shame. The government, in it's greed, has opened the door to a new and exciting opportunity for capitalism. Lets traffic tobacco!!

This is sarcasm of course, but clearly we can see where this will go. New York will have to hire more tobacco police, and there goes the windfall profits anticipated by creating the taxes. Government has become so predictable.

28 posted on 09/01/2002 9:05:25 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: Stallone
You cannot multiply 'S' sales by 't' tax rate, then change 't', without impacting 'S'. Call it bureaucratic blowback.

My favorite example--wish I could remember the specifics:

A state government was charging a 50% excise tax on widgets; widget sales were something like $100,000/year, so the tax brought in $50,000. Someone in the legislature pushed through a tax reduction to 10%, over protests that the state couldn't afford it--it would cost $40,000.

Well, after the tax was cut, widget sales soared tenfold, to $1,000,000/year. Tax revenues increased as well, to $100,000. Did that appease the naysayers? Nope.

Instead, they complained that the tax cut was costing the state even more than they'd expected, to the tune of $400,000, and needed to be rolled back up.

29 posted on 09/01/2002 9:20:55 AM PDT by supercat
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To: sarcasm
Once again,the"good intentions"of The Rich Limousine-"LiboCrites"do nothing to solve the problem,but do hurt the lower class entrepenuer!!!When are these people going to wise up???
30 posted on 09/01/2002 10:37:15 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: unbiasedtruth
Is this a surprise?When ridership on MTA declined,what was the "LiboCrite" solution??True to form,their answer was to hike fares!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31 posted on 09/01/2002 10:39:40 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: unbiasedtruth
Go to the head of the class!!!
32 posted on 09/01/2002 10:40:59 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: JoeSixPack1
Maybe he's(Bloomie)got something there!If there's too much crime around the bodegas,just run them out of business!!!
33 posted on 09/01/2002 10:44:09 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: supercat
Great analogy!!!!!

The State of Delaware didn't raise the tax on cigarettes this year, and it's paying off bigtime!!!

All the surrounding states, MD, PA, NJ and of course NY & NYC, did raise theirs.

Cigaette tax revenue for the month of July jumped by 58.8 percent over the June numbers. And more than 46% over July of last year.

Hopefully that will be proof enough for the sharks in the legislature to keep their hands out of smokers pockets in January. But I won't hold my breath.
34 posted on 09/01/2002 10:56:44 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: SheLion
Thanks so much for the link, I just ordered myself the "Deluxe Starter Kit." I'm sick of paying 7 to 9 dollars for a couple of packs of smokes and supporting the nanny state. Screw em. Let them go broke, let the non-smokers pick of the tab or change the tax laws!

It is appalling how much taxes folks pay these days-FICA, State, Sales, SS, and Medicare. I almost cry everytime I get my paycheck-a good 33% is gone and then you get to pay out the bazoo for every thing you purchase (except food)!

I ain't gonna take much longer.

37 posted on 09/01/2002 11:43:24 AM PDT by seeker41
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To: SheLion
"I ain't gonna to IT much longer", got myself all worked up.
38 posted on 09/01/2002 11:46:34 AM PDT by seeker41
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To: CIB-173RDABN
I blame the tobaco industry.

60% tobacco industry, 40% weak-kneed pandering politicians.

39 posted on 09/01/2002 12:43:24 PM PDT by metesky
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To: o_zarkman44
Lets black market cigarettes

Someone beat you to it. But you can join the throngs that are DOING it!!!! :)

N.Y. Shows Black Market Cigarettes</a.

40 posted on 09/01/2002 7:19:19 PM PDT by SheLion
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